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It delivers and draws to Himself ! One of The scriptures most corrupted by false teachers is that which makes Christ death a Saving Success for all whom He died, it is written Jn 12:32 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. Now heretics tell us that this Truth...

renewed This is true, by nature, prior to being born again, the elect of God are just as worthy of wrath as the reprobated lost. So God never chose the elect because they were anyway better than the non elect, for all without exception are worthy of Gods wrath. However, notice it never said...

Aint nobody Christ died for, and propitiated Gods wrath for, are under Gods wrath, thats just ignorance.

renewed I have provided much proof but you cant believe it. You deny scripture, in fact you are an enemy to it.

renewed Oh Yes, you still believe in Justification conditioned on man. Quoting verses is truly a waste of time for you, because you don't even believe them The world of the saved, the Justified.

Scriptures that indicate that election to Salvation took place before the elect individual existed: Jeremiah 1:5 - “Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb, I sanctified thee.” Matthew 25:34 - “Then shall the King say unto them on His right...

To bring us to God ! Did Christs death accomplish its saving purpose ? Which was to bring Gods elect to God 1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: Did His...

Sorry but you lost me friend.

Again Rom 1:18ff can only apply to men and women who Christ did not die for, only they are under Gods wrath. God is reconciled to all men and women who Christ died for Rom 5:10 10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been...

renewed Once again, the world here in these are strictly the elect. Again reasonably implied since you believe people who Christ shed His Blood for will yet be lost in their sins.

renewed You can quote scripture all you like, your own testimony says you condition salvation/justification on man, and therefore on works.

What is the meaning of election? The Greek word for election is ekloge (ek-log-ay') it means to pick out, choose, chosen, elect. It is to choose some people out of many people. Who does the choosing? God does the choosing. Do not be surprised majority of the churches that are Arminian believe...

Really? What do you understand me saying?

renewed You do deny Justification by Faith, For Faith is given to the Justified so they will believe No one can hear and believe spiritually until they are born again. So when scripture says they heard and believed like Eph 1:13 they had been born again prior to believing.!

Again those whom Christ died for are children of God before they are born again, and that is why they are born again. Christ died for them, redeemed them, then sends the Spirit into their hearts with new life Gal 4:4:4-6 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son...

Again the natural man cannot understand the things of God because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2:14 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

All sinners Christ died for are Justified and have eternal redemption safe in Christs hands Heb 9:12 12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption

Again Rom 1:18ff applies only to the reprobate who Christ didn't die for.

renewed These verses refer strictly to Gods elect. Again its reasonably implied, since you believe people Christ died for can be lost in their sins which He died for already.

renewed Again you blatantly deny the Testimony of Christs resurrection that Christs death Justified all for whom He died. Rom 4:25 It doesn't matter, its all connected, Abraham believed the Gospel in which the righteousness of God is revealed to Faith from Faith, so he understood Christ the...