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Rev 13:16 " to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads" Am I the only one that sees this ?????

How many people here has ever received the sign of the cross? Have you ever attended a Catholic Mass? The Priest or "father" who is a minion of the Pope issues the sign of the cross to all in attendance at the benediction of the mass.

The mark of the beast is the "Sign of the Cross" In the name of the Father (6), and of the Son (6) , and of the Holy Spirit (6). In the name of the Father, who sits on the throne in Vatican. He is 6. and of the Son, Touching your heart in the name of the "Scared Heart of Jesus Apparition"...

Millerism and adventism misinterpret scripture , and yet they still influence and impact others on how they interpret scripture. Case in point: their misinterpretation and abuse of the historicist view has led many to hastily reject the historicist view.

Yes the SDA has butchered the historicist view. But because they have done this must we now throw out the historicist view? Saying yes to this is like throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Three unclean spirits is from sixth bowl of wrath. I strongly feel that the sixth bowl of wrath is the plague of Islam upon the world. If this is the case then the sixth bowl of wrath began in the 6th or 7th century AD, but has not yet ended. Interesting, right?? I thought that the three...

Nice eye, Great point! Thanks for sharing. What if the mark of the beast is already here? Satan deceives the whole world and yet, so many believers are so confident to dismiss that Satan is deceiving the whole in regards to the mark of the beast.

For Chapter 17 "Whore of Babylon" Many erroneously interpret "the beast is now not" to mean that the beast did not exist during John's lifetime (approx 95 AD). But this is erroneous. A correct interpretation is to determine that "the beast is now not" when the Prophesy of the Whore of...

Ah, but here is my point. You had the beast (Roman Empire) and False prophet (Roman Catholic Church), where the Roman Emperor appointed the Pope for some 400 years. Then Roman Empire dwindled and was succeeded by the Holy Roman Empire. Now the Pope ordained the Emeror Charlemagne. As one...

It clearly mentions two, but what are the two? Are they two men? It does not say this. In fact these two are thrown alive into the lake of fire. For man he must die once and then face judgement. The evidence is that they are not two men. For men do not bypass the first death to be...

But nero is just one man while papacy is a whole succession of men. It would make more sense to say Roman Emperor and the Papacy. State (tyrannical government) 1st beast, and corrupted church (false christian prophet) 2nd beast

I dont know, who?

"Mystery Babylon is the “fake church”", i agree with that statement. I think you make many good points. but when the jews (israel) rejected there messiah, Jesus, then salvation went to the gentiles (the whole world). the center of israel which is jerusalem was destroyed and therefore god...

Yes, I agree. so "the beast" in revelation could be representative of several different governments over time.

Didn't God In Ezekiel 16 refer to Jerusalem (a people and a government) as a she, an adulterous wife?

what are you saying? the beast is an individual person? if so is he a religious leader like a clergyman?, or is he a governmental leader like a king?

OK, the beast is a people or better yet a government. Thanks for chiming in.

Nice point! I like your point!! ---no tap dancing, please-- Simple question: So what is the beast?

So what is the beast? This thread is asking question about the beast. OK, so I am in the historicist camp, but that doesn't mean we are in agreement on these things. I am talking about the beast. You and others keep talking about the antichrist. So There is "man of lawlessness", and...

Are you saying the devil in the bottomless pit is the beast is not? But the beast was already throw into the lake of fire in Chp. 19 when devil goes into bottomless pit in Chp 20. Not sure what you are stating. Can you summarize your view on this to a few sentences? What view does fall...