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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    You don't have many reading skills or critical thinking skills, either. If you want to take people on, form doctrine, etc, you need to step back, stop being so arrogant, stop insulting every member in this forum, and bring up your level of education. A lot of people have it naturally, they...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Denies Chr How about this PenEd. If I chose to live unrighteous would that be ok? Since Christ paid for my sin what stops me from just doing evil? I do believe Jesus is a believers propitation. Its because of Him that I am able to receive mercy. I dont deserve mercy, no one does. No one is...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Thats just crazy. How can you not lose your salvation? So according to you a believing homosexual can go to heaven? Or how about an idolater catholic who does santeria and rituals? The list goes on, according to you they cant lose their salvation? How about Ted Bundy? According to you Ted Bundy...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    If you read Apostle Paul's letters, you realized he almost never mentioned anything about Jesus's earthly ministry? Why do you think he focused so much on the DBR of Jesus instead? Well Christians were being persecuted and killed when Paul was spreading the good news. So it makes sense to...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Death burial and ressurection. So to you thats the gospel? To me the gospel is the fact that He came and dwelt among us. He came to bring light and show us the way. That is the gospel. And I assume the 4 gospels are the 4 accounts of the gospel? To me these 4 accounts reveal the life of Jesus...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Your anger is flying off the page. No apostrophes needed. And Jesus doesnt come in the form of a PHd but I appreciate the attempt to belittle me. I get it im not usong proper grammer and im not using commas and apostrophies. Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Ok agreed and I am open to opening myself to questioning but not if you have bad intentions. But if that you being open to listening to my point of view than im all for it. Thats why i joined this site to be able to share in what God has been teaching me. So what is the question besides...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    No I believe there is only One God. The book of Isaiah clearly points out that besides God there is no other. God is One. Him having Word and Spirit makes Him still One. We also have speech and a spirit and a body. We are still human in singular form. Can I ask you a person question? What is it...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Look get to your point. You ask a bunch of questions. Do you want to carry dialoge? What are you wanting to say?
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    I believe Jesus is God. I do not believe that Jesus is the Father. Jesus said "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" (John 14:28). Its clear Jesus is not the...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    The gospel. Is this Jesus is the Word of God made flesh. From the beginning the Word was with God. The Word was God. God is the Father God is the source. He is the creator of all living. And God created heaven and earth and all living thing by speaking it into existence. God is almighty and so...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Jesus is the new covenant. He would be the one to baptize us with the Holy Spirit as shown in the book af Acts. The old covenant was the circumsicion of the flesh, new circumsicion is of the heart. Getting rid of sin and allowing the Holy Spirit to work in us a new creation. I dont read the...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    The flesh is not the real us. It wars in us against the Spirit. Our flesh is sinful in nature, thats why Jesus prayed to the Father if this cup can be taken from me, but if not let not My will but Your will be done. He said the Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. Im sure it was not easy. He...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    John 21:20 Then Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following, who also had leaned on His breast at the supper, and said, “Lord, who is the one who betrays You?” 21 Peter, seeing him, said to Jesus, “But Lord, what about this man?” 22 Jesus said to him, “If I will that he...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Be born again? Yes i believe that. Im a born again Christian. I recieved the Holy Spirit. I look forward to the promise of salvation. Im not dead yet. And I spread the gospel so yes I believe in the gospel. I didnt get back to you sooner yesterday because I was witnessing to someone who needed...
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    My relationship is over and there's nothing I can do...

    Pray for your boyfriend to have a change of heart. You guys are a family, you guys have a child together you should have been thinking of marriage because like the guys was trying to say fornication is sin. And sin has consequences so its best that we do things the way God intended us to do...
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    Why I no longer believe in the penal substitution theory of the Atonement

    Why do u guys put sad faces? Did I say something to upset u guys? Im sorry if I did.
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    What is a watchman?

    I didnt write it. It was yesterdays daily bread. So when u mentioned a watch it clicked in my head, i thought that was awesome how it happened to work itself into the conversation. I figured it was for you. Glad you enjoyed it. God bless you
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    Some truth about speaking in tongues, the Holy Ghost, spiritual gifts and 1 Corinthians 14

    Hey youre absolutely right. This is the best approach in anything we do, seek we God and we shall find. You cant go wrong. I got answers to my prayers to difficult questions that no one could answer and help me with but God revealed them, its being open to let God work in your life that maybe...