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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    ALL TIME is troubles go read John 16:33, what I find with you guys that can't discern these thigs clearly is you are using YOUR MIND and not the Holy Spirit which only reveals TRUTH. You will never see God's truths by using your mind, God doesn't work like that. And yes, the understanding is in...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    Because everything has already "HAPPENED" so its ALL IMPORTANT that everything "FIT" even though it doesn't, the MO is more important than the facts. When we get tp the point that we will do anything to prove a point, we are not hearing from God but the liar Satan who always whispers unto us, he...
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    Let's talk about the elephant in the room

    Remember what Jesus said, Satan accuses the brothers 24/7/365. I mean, truth is truth, but I am not focused on those who fall but on those God wants to lift up, we all sin, the woman taken in adultery was not stoned because Jesus' words cut them to the bone. Lets focus on uplifting the...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    You are not being told this by the holy spirit, remember when I told you the exact reason you couldn't ever admit the 2300 days is actually 1150 days with 2300 sacrifices being taken away? Because I have known these wrong teaching before you even became a Christian, I imagine. So, this didn't...
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    How does Satan keep getting unbound?

    The exact same way he started winning the battle when Moses' staff dropped down, and thus Arron and Joshua had to help him hold up the staff. You know why? Because Gid wo could win the battles now, by Himself, is trying to teach us how to win the war via prayer, just like Jesus overcame Satan by...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    You bring all the relevant points together here, but one thing is left amiss. Some people do not understand that IMMEDIATLY after the Tribulation of those days means after God's 1260 days of Judgment which only BEGINS with the Day of the Lord (Sun and Moon event), but WHICH ENDS, with the 7th...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    Yes, but he had a whole other section from I think 8-12 that was repeated for the Jews/Israel alone, I just shortened it up to where it was only about the Church, since that is what we will face, even if we are Jewish(I am a Gentile) and saved before the Pre Trib Rapture. Here's the catch, no...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    CONTINUED........... Also, the Two-witnesses will be preaching to these 3-5 million Jews in the Petra/Bozrah area for many, many days, so THEY WILL KNOW, this man in Jerusalem is a Gentile King, not their Messiah, who will be coming soon with their justice, and with these wicked men's Judgments...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    Jesus was sent only unto the Jews, Jesus was then asked by his Jewish Disciples when these things shall be (Temples Destruction Matt. 24:1-3) what would be the signs of his coming, and the end of the world [age of man]. So, Jesus needs to explain all of these things to his Disciples, he also...
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    Angel? Prophet? Both?

    Daniel didn't know what God looked like, he saw Jesus (Man in Linen) so, it would be hard for him to tell the difference between Jesus and the Angel if both appeared to look like common man with a glorious body. The word Prophet simply means FORETELLER when looking to the Greek root word. Well...
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    Angel? Prophet? Both?

    I think you are conflating this a wee bit. While it could be Enoch, or Moses, or Elijah, I think its an Angel which means of course a Messenger of God. The key here is the last two words, WORSHIP God, that is wat the Bible (OVERALL) teaches us, and what the problem in this whole world is today...
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    Revelation's Mystery Author? Rev 1:1-3 suggests a third-party author

    These are all true, but I don't think those are real time events, in other words John is being shown futuristic visions of the Church Alders speaking, the Great Multitude are the Raptured, Church Age, mostly Gentiles with some Jewish Saints who were Raptured pre trib. So, the can't be there...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    CONTINUED.................. The Church is an insertion in the Lord's Plan. Israel was the original bride. I believe that the Lord Jesus will come for His bride, the Church, in a separate event (the Rapture) from the Lord's return for His bride, Israel. From this point forward in the Jewish...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    The whole reason we get Glorious bodies is? Our flesh and blood can not enter heaven, 1 Cor. 15:50, thus we need to change, because we are going to meet the Lord in the air brother, we are not changing into a glorious body to stay on this earth. Only those who were martyrs that refused the Mark...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    The usual reply I get after a beat down on doctrine. Which is why I don't waste the time. These things are evident, bit not to those who are not called unto Prophecy. Stick toy your callings and you will do fine. As I stated, you will run nd hide from the facts because you can't overcome the...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    CONTINUED......... Symbolism There are several prophetic types that seem to affirm the concept of deliverance from Tribulation. Take Enoch for example. He was a prophet to the Gentiles who was raptured out of the world before God poured out His wrath in the great flood of Noah’s time. Enoch...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    CONTINUED........ Pre-Wrath Rapture A variation of the mid-Tribulation Rapture is the pre-wrath Rapture concept that places the Rapture at some point in the last quarter of the Tribulation, about five and a half years into the Tribulation. The argument for this view is that the Church is...
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    Does 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 Teach Jesus Will Return With Dead Saints Now With Him In Heaven?

    The Rapture What is it? Who will it affect? When is it most likely to take place? By Dr. David R. Reagan The Rapture is a glorious event which God has promised to the Church. The promise is that someday very soon, at the blowing of a trumpet and the shout of an archangel, Jesus will appear in...
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    Revelation's Mystery Author? Rev 1:1-3 suggests a third-party author

    I would be more of a synopsis of my writings. I can do 5,000 to 1,0000 words on each chapter, so with a limited space I gave a barebones synopsis in order to show people the Exact Timeline of the book pf Revelation. It's covered in Three Posts HERE...