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^I think this is at the heart of your contention: the modern geopolitical state that calls itself Israel. From what I've read of your responses in this and the other thread, it seems that because you've found that the current state can not possibly fulfill the promises made to Israel (a view I...

Welcome. There are many denominations and sects born out of hyper-focusing on archaic words, stripping them from their plain meaning and transforming them into doctrines that cause later readers to stumble. I'd like to share a bit of context and then (hopefully) allow the scriptures to reveal...

Definitely worth exploring. Are they eligible to be regathered? Who determines their eligibility? 100% Agree. Just focusing on the point of contention which is, whether there are promises specific to ethnic Israel (i.e natural branches). I offered for your consideration the promise of...

I was quite clear that I hadn't started the process of addressing your question yet by providing a passage until after I addressed other points you had made first. Such wasn't subject to your rules.

Context is found in Deut 28:15-64 (Moses in pronouncing this prophecy over Israel just prior to dying and Joshua taking over leadership) However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on...

I'm not sure if you realize this...but throughout your reply you've stayed away from what was specifically addressed in scripture and appealed to what "might be" the reason, "may have" been the motivation, "could have" been possible, "can be" the interpretation. I'm not sure if these are...

I think the first point you agreed with is probably a sufficient foundation to share an OT passage regarding a promise made specifically to Israel, so I'll come back to it, but if I may... Isn't it consistent that if members of the body have "...different offices of duty/domain. An eye to an...

Ok, yes I think this is fair. Ok before I share an OT passage, with regard to the passage "there is neither Jew or Gentile", would you agree with the following statement? The context of the Galatians passage was "righteousness/Justification", not an all-encompassing statement also including...

I agree with everything you said except for this last portion and want to push back at it a bit. If bloodlines didn't matter then it wouldn't have mattered which tribe and family the Messiah was born within. It mattered because He had to establish a legal, rightful, earthly claim to the throne...

Ezekiel was written when the Jews were in babylonian captivity. So I believe its pages prophesy the order of events following their return to the land (Nehemiah), through to the destruction of Jerusalem (70AD), to the resurrection of the dead and their final return to the land. The passage...

Agreed. Speaking to the Samaritan woman, Messiah said: John 4:21-24 21“ Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is...

I think there's some truth to what PennEd speaks but I always love a perfectly timed gif. lol

I suppose one could make an argument for such but as it stands the meaning of the word physical is distinct from something of the mind. Physical - 1. relating to the body as opposed to the mind. 2. relating to things perceived through the senses as opposed to the mind; tangible or concrete...

This is a strawman. You've added the word "physical". Thinking is an action but thought isn't physical. To understand the phrase "in the heart" or "out of the heart" recall the command to "love the Lord with all your heart". It isn't a commandment of "feelings". It specifically has to do with...

Post, brother, if we take this statement of truth and pull it apart notice that there's an action described. "...looketh on a woman to lust after her" = committed adultery. An action was taken. It wasn't taken directly with the woman but the action was taken. - an iniquitous/wicked heart...

:)...:unsure: This is all I hear while reading the last posts... John 7:12 And there was much murmuring about Him among the crowds. For some were saying, "He is good." But others were saying, "No, but He deceives the people." Luke 20:1-2 1 And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as...

It's possible that it was "an eye for an eye" situation. As Ham (Noah's youngest) shamed him, and so was Canaan (Ham's youngest) cursed to shame him?

I agree that changing definitions of words is a trick. This is why we need to go back to what the scripture says these concepts mean, not hold onto incorrect doctrines adopted from Catholicism. Romans 5:12-14 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so...

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. ^ At His resurrection. Hebrew 5:7-9 During the days of Jesus’ earthly life, He offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the One who could save...

The miracles are attributed to those prophets respectively, but it's all through the power of God's Spirit. Every single miracle from Elijah to Messiah to Paul. That's the point. It's why I said a few times that regular men did so through the Holy Spirit, and that it's not an argument for...