i think it's only Christians living at that time but i don't know. to me, why should atheists be living at that time when Christians are? i thought the 1,000 year reign is reserved for Christians being with Jesus.
Rapture! Tribulation!
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a while back, i also predicted the 2030 era.It's actually pretty straightforward. Everything gets done at His second coming.
I think the end times are going to happen very soon. Maybe in the 2030s? Satan is working so hard to confuse and decieve people., technology that he would need seems to be developed, and the players are placing themselves in positiom. Even the Euphrates RIver is drying up fast.
That won't take long either.
2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
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Few left who were unrigteous who will be repopulating the earth
Revelation 6:9-11
When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain
because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; and they cried
out with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You refrain from judging and avenging
our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they
were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their
brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.
I would have thought they were in general Christians through history that died, because of their
testimony. I have never read Revelation 6 as associated with the Tribulation event.
Something concerning the martyrs to take note of is their there still dying. They are told to wait
a little longer for their glorification and revenge. Their full number is not complete.
The other group is below.
Revelation 20:4
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those
who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those
who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on
their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
If they are a separate group ultimately they all fall into the same category, those who died for Christ.
Also orphaned children. I hope I get to take care of some because I didn't get to in this age!
I think we know that we go through the Tribulation.
Revelation 14:9-12
Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
This warning is not for the unsaved but for the saints.
Not so quick.
Revelation 20:7-10
When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore. And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
1) After the thousand year reign
2) The nations still exist
3) The first Beast and the Second Beast are in the lake of fire
4) And Satan is thrown in with them
Also orphaned children. I hope I get to take care of some because I didn't get to in this age!
The orphans are very, very special.
After the tribulation Jesus sends out His angels to GATHER the Saints -----there is nothing about Rapturing the Saints here ---
Jesus separates the Believers from the Unbelievers ----the Saints remain with Jesus who sets up the New Earth --
Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
this word Gather means
Lexical Summary
episunagó: To gather together, to assemble
properly, bring together (gather), i.e. group together (collect), especially to accomplish the intended purpose of the gathering.
There is no Rapture here because at His Second coming he sets up his New Earth ---so the saints are kept with Jesus here as they will be in the New Earth ------the unbelieving are judged are sent away ---
This is actually the separating of the sheep from the goats ---Jesus gave a Parable on this very thing
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Unbelievers alive at the end of the tribulation face immediate judgment at Christ's return (the Sheep and Goats Judgment) and are cast away from His kingdom.
They are removed from the earth and, according to scripture, await final sentencing to the lake of fire, which is the eternal, conscious place of punishment for those who rejected God.
Immediate Post-Tribulation (The Second Coming): According to Matthew 25:31-46, when Jesus returns, He separates the "sheep" (believers) from the "goats" (unbelievers). The unbelievers are cast into "eternal fire" prepared for the devil and his angels.
Death During/After Tribulation: Unbelievers who die before or during the tribulation go immediately to Hades, a temporary place of torment.
The Final Judgment: After the 1,000-year Millennial Kingdom, all remaining unbelievers from all ages are summoned to the Great White Throne Judgment. They are judged according to their deeds, and since their names are not in the Book of Life, they are cast into the Lake of Fire (the second death/Gehenna), which is the final, permanent place of separation from God.
1 Thess. 4:16 explicitly states that the dead must rise first, Rev. 20:1-5 states that resurrection takes place right at the time of Christ's return and the beginning of the millennial kingdom, Matt. 24:29-31 states that Christ returns "immediately AFTER the tribulation." Connect these dots, the timing should be pretty clear.
Just make sure you connect the right dots, and connect them correctly.
As nice as it sounds, the Matthew 24:29-31 statement is incorrect - the return of Christ does not occur "immediately after the tribulation" - go back and read/study the passage very carefully - there is a 3.5-year period of time between the end of the tribulation and the return of Christ - we call it [the time of] the Two Witnesses.
The great tribulation IS the 3.5 year period, repeated 5 times in Revelation 11-13. There's no seven year tribulation.
Also, it's not just Matt. 24:29-31, in Revelation Jesus returns AFTER the seven seals, the seven trumpets, the seven bowls and the destruction of Babylon the Great, at the very end of chapter 19. I did read carefully, and I didn't find another 3.5 year period between 19:16 and 20:1.
wow, that's so loving of you 2ndTimeIsTheCharm!Also orphaned children. I hope I get to take care of some because I didn't get to in this age!
Well it's 1260 days X 2, right? So it is a 7 year period but the first 3.5 years is when they try to get the people to accept extra-terrestrial Aliens which I believe is the Lie. They are not extra terrestrial from a distant star system, they are in truth Demonic hyper-dimensional beings, every one of them. We have been given authority over demons un the Name of Jesus.
I heard a testimony from a guy who had occasion to come face to face with a so called Alien and was scared so he invoked the Name of Jesus to the "Alien" and the guy said it was like he gut punched the evil spirit/alien thing, and it was over at that point and the Alien didnt want to talk anymore lol!
They might try to be friendly at first. No I dont want to go onto no alien ship and that thing is not coming in my house! (In the Name of Jesus!!!) Remember that Brothers & Sisters
Those people that will be born during the millennium will have the adamic nature and will have needs of accepting Jesus like everyone else has done.
The Christians who were raptured as the Bride are transformed at the rapture. So it sounds to me like us saints who return with Jesus will have a resurrection body like Jesus had after he arose from the dead. Jesus could walk through walls and all sorts of stuff. And we'll be living on earth with a population of largely humans
All that stuff is happening now if you pay attention. and I expect it will ramp up during the tribulation.
Jesus Transfiguration is the forerunner for what our bodies will be like ------we will be changes in the twinkling of an eye ---just like Jesus was ------
Matthew 17
The Transfiguration
17 Six days later Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John the brother of James, and led them up on a high mountain by themselves.
2 And His appearance changed dramatically in their presence; and His face shone [with heavenly glory, clear and bright] like the sun, and His clothing became as white as light.
3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Jesus