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The New Covenant Is Not What Many Have Been Taught
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You don't know what you're talking about. I gave you all of the information you need to research it yourself.
You make stuff up. Those rules didn't even come into being until after Jesus ascended into heaven. And gentiles after the cross were not converting to Judaism, but Christianity. They weren't proselytes. They were Christians.
Now can you answer the question: where in scripture does Jesus command Gentiles to keep the law?
Your whole argument rests on this claim: that nothing is required from the person at all, either to enter salvation or to remain in it. That idea does not come from Jesus. It comes from reading later writings in a way that cancels His direct words. That is a serious mistake.
First, Jesus never taught that obedience is optional or irrelevant. He tied salvation to obedience again and again. He did not say obedience earns salvation, but He did say obedience is required to enter and remain in life.
Jesus said, “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:17, NKJV). He did not say, “You cannot keep them,” nor did He say, “They no longer matter.” He said keep them.
Jesus said, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” (Matthew 7:21, NKJV). Calling Him Savior is not enough. Doing the Father’s will matters.
Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments” (John 14:15, NKJV). Love without obedience is rejected by Jesus Himself.
Jesus also warned believers, not unbelievers, about being cut off. “Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away” and “If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered” (John 15:2, 6, NKJV). That is not imaginary. That is a warning about losing life by refusing to remain obedient.
Now about the New Covenant. You say the law written on the heart is not the Ten Commandments. But Scripture never says God erased His moral law. The Ten Commandments are not sacrifices. They never were. They are simple commands about loving God and loving others. Jesus confirmed this when He said all the law hangs on loving God and loving your neighbor (Matthew 22:37–40, NKJV). He did not replace them. He revealed their true depth.
The book of Hebrews is talking about priesthood, sacrifices, and the system that dealt with sin through offerings. That is what changed. Jesus is the final sacrifice. That part is finished. But Hebrews never says God removed His moral commands or that obedience no longer matters. Saying “the law made nothing perfect” is not the same as saying “the law is gone.” The law shows what sin is. Jesus cleanses us so we can walk in obedience, not so we can ignore it.
Jesus Himself explained the New Covenant life. “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God” (Matthew 5:8, NKJV). “If you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses” (Matthew 6:15, NKJV). Those are salvation warnings, not suggestions.
Grace is real. Mercy is real. Forgiveness is real. But grace does not remove obedience. Grace teaches obedience. Jesus never said a person is saved with no conditions afterward. He said, “He who endures to the end shall be saved” (Matthew 24:13, NKJV).
This teaching that nothing is required at all is dangerous. It gives false peace while leading people away from the fear of God. Jesus warned that many will think they are safe and will hear, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness” (Matthew 7:23, NKJV). Lawlessness means living without obedience.
This is a warning given in love. Do not cancel the words of Jesus to protect a system. Do not tell people obedience does not matter when Christ Himself says it does. Salvation is a gift, but it is a living gift. It can be rejected by disobedience, neglect, and refusing to abide in Him.
Jesus saves. Jesus cleanses. Jesus gives mercy. But Jesus also commands, warns, and judges by His own words. And He said clearly, “If anyone hears My words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day” (John 12:47–48, NKJV).
That should make anyone stop and and thing twice before speaking against what Jesus the son of God preached to the world.
Who does the scriptures say that Jesus died for? He died only for those that his Father gave him (John 6:37-40). Jesus not only redeemed them from their sins, but he also promised them an inheritance of eternal heaven. The scriptures tell us that some of mankind will live in eternal hell. If Jesus had died for all mankind, with he did not, then all of mankind would live in eternal heaven. Those that Jesus died for was by God's grace alone, without any action from mankind, Eph 2:8-9 - For by grace are ye saved through "the faith of Jesus" and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, lest any man should boast.
[Mat 19:26 KJV] 26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
By the verses I posted from Hebrews yesterday, we see that the commands and laws of the OC were changed to the NC through Christ's sacrifice. By that, salvation came to fruition through the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, and not through any of man's actions or works, which fall under the law of sin and death. Since we become saved based only upon what Christ achieved, then we also remain saved based only upon what Christ achieved. Were this not so, then Christ wouldn't be the Savior, but which He is, and which, we are clearly, plainly and unconditionally informed of without contradiction throughout Scripture. I suggest you've placed your trust on the works of man for salvation and not upon what salvation is actually based upon which are the works of Christ; a gift solely given through the mercy and grace of God to those so chosen for it. Ponder the following verses closely. No reference in them is made regarding any contribution by man by the keeping of any law or by any works of righteousness on his part - it is clearly only as a gift through Jesus Christ.
[Tit 3:3-7 KJV]
3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, [and] hating one another.
4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
No. They endure unto the end only because it is God's will for them that they do so. It is not achieved of themselves.
[1Pe 1:3-5 KJV]
3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
Specifically, how do you perceive that someone actually becomes saved as opposed to how they should act as a Christian? In your post, at least to me it is unclear. Can you separate the two and state what you believe the requirement(s) of salvation to be simply and in one sentence?
Wow. So the God of heaven came down to earth and a great multitude came to hear Him, but yet His words He said to “whoever” do not apply to you or the blessings He said that came with obeidence to His sayings. Got it. Nothing something I am able to reason with, so take care.
It was not Jesus's intention to teach the multitudes, only His disciples. The "them" below were His disciples only
[Mat 5:1-2 KJV]
1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:
2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
And seeing the multitude
His disciples followed Him everywhere, but the sermon was for "whoever" those who hear Christ and are followers, and than do His saying.
Jesus never taught two gospels.
If His words don't apply to us, than Lord have mercy.
not true Jesus DID teach the multitude if he did not want to do this he would have given this speech in private and again Jesus sent his disciples to teach all he did and said, it is why we have this in writing in the bible it is for you and everyone else who listens.
Oh yes the Lake of Fire that is not "hell" that is permanent death, no eternal punishing and yes that is truth.
A person must, first, be quickened by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit before he can understand spiritual things or react to any thing of a spiritual nature (1 Cor 2:14). Salvation, according to Strong's concordance, means "a deliverance". The scriptures teach that those that Jesus died for have the promise of eternal deliverance (salvation). (John 6:37-40). Those that have the promise of eternal deliverance, as they live their lives here on earth, can be delivered (saved) to enjoy a good and abundant life here, if they follow God's commandments. The scriptures teach that there is an eternal deliverance, given by God's grace, ant there is also, a deliverance here on earth, earned by the good works of those that already have the promise of eternal deliverance. You should be giving all praise and honor to God for his grace and mercy for your eternal deliverance, instead of giving yourself credit for your deliverance by doing good works.
The trouble with your theory, is that the natural man (1 Cor 2:14) cannot receive the things of the Spirit until he has been quickened by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. (Eph 2:1). You are believing in eternal deliverance by works.
show where i give myself credit, i deserve none but Jesus deserves all of it.
Yes, seeing the multitudes, but teaching only His disciples. Jesus chose not to teach the multitudes - not that He taught two gospels, but neither did He desire to teach the one true gospel to everyone.
[Mat 13:10-11, 13, 15-16 KJV]
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. ...
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. ...
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed [are] your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
So, according to your post above, there is something that we must "do" to become saved, correct? So then, with you knowing that we must do something, what specifically is it that we must do? If you're going to state that a prerequisite exists, then you should also be willing to state exactly what will satisfy it or it becomes a requirement without a solution.