Poll about how you see predestination/freewill

We each individually have responsibility to respond to God who shows God's will with grace for us. That we fail does not change that God does that for us, but we do have the responsibility to answer that we will do accordingly.

You said: It does not state raise up to eternal life, nor have you specified what Jesus meant when He stated last day. - this in response to John 6:44. The only reason one would be questioning the obvious meaning of this verse, is because one does not want it to mean what it says. The best way to determine what the writer means by the use of "raise up" and "last day", is to look and see how these are used throughout the book of John. Here are the verses:

John 6:39 And this is the will of him that sent me, that of all that which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day.
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that every one that beholdeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:54 He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternal life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Bible defining the Bible. In these three verses, there can be no doubt that "raise up" is referring to the resurrection and "last day" is the resurrection day. Verse 40 makes it clear that this is to eternal life. However, if there is still any doubt, then look at this conversation, please:

John 11:23-26 Jesus says unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. (24) Martha said unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. (25) Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth on me, though he die, yet shall he live; (26) and whosoever living and believing on me shall never die. Do you believe this?

So based on the context of John 6:39 and 40, the proper understanding of John 6:44, is the resurrection at the last day. This is to eternal life.

You then said: Why did Jesus say to all His disciples in John 15:16, “Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit” when Judas was still one of that group? Judas has been chosen, ordained, to bring forth fruit, yet he doesn’t. Your question seems to pertain to Judas. If he was chosen and appointed to bring forth fruit, what went wrong? In the case of Judas - nothing went wrong. Judas carried out the role he was chosen and called to do. Scripture says the following about Judas:

John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Did not I choose you the twelve, and one of you is a devil?
John 6:71 Now he spoke of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled: He that eateth my bread lifted up his heel against me. (Here our Lord is revealing that Judas was chosen to fulfill OT prophecy. In particular Psalm 41:9)

Judas had a particular role to fulfill. If he did not, then the prophecies from the Old Testament would not have come to pass and God would be a liar. Most would never accuse God of being a liar. We know who the father of all lies is. Just because Judas hung out with Jesus and the other disciples, does not mean that he was saved. There was never evidence that Judas believed Jesus to be God.

Finally, you stated the following: If “many are called but few are chosen” (Matthew 22:14), then why is the number chosen less than the number called. Why would God call a large number of people to the wedding feast, yet only choose some of them?

The reason why "many" can be CALLED but "few" are CHOSEN can be explained in this way: First - let me say that this verse, Matthew 22:14, is the closing sentence of a "parable" that our Lord was telling. Believers should be careful about using a parable for doctrinal understanding. Nevertheless, the reason why the numbers are not the same is because "called" and "chosen are not the same thing. In the case of verse 14, called is referring to the General call of the Gospel message. Many may hear this and respond for a short season but without Regeneration and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, there is no staying power. Their faith was never genuine. However, the ones chosen to adoption as sons, are Regenerated at the appropriate time and then Effectually called by the Gospel message. One who is effectually called, will incur the full effect of the Gospel and it's lasting impact on their lives. Also, in proper Biblical sequence, called never proceeds chosen, when referring to genuine salvation. Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Yes, God expects us to obey.

What God expects and what He desires is a distinction without a difference.

No, the Bible states few will be saved but many will try.

Luke 13:23-24
Someone said to Jesus, “Lord, will only a few people be saved?”
Jesus said, “Try hard to enter through the narrow door, because many people will try to enter there, but they will not be able.

God has "consigned" (handed over) all of mankind to their disobedience, putting us into a lost state. God could have made us like the angels and let us clearly see the outcome of our disobedience but without the possibility of grace. Mercy is our hope but not our fate, we have the ability to choose. Just as Cain could have tried to do right, so do we.

BTW, some use this verse as evidence of eventual universal salvation and if left in a vacuum it would but no verse should be seen in such a way. IOW, no verse should be seen as all-encompassing and trumping the rest of scripture.

I am not lost because I was born, I am lost as a result of my choices. Any verse if labeled as a panacea can be abused. Mankind only has freewill concerning the issues that God has granted us, much like the limited freewill God granted Satan over Job.

I haven't read the whole topic here. So it may be that someone else has already posted my assessment.

Isn't it simply the case that man has free will, but since God is almighty and also exists “outside” our understanding of time (time is also part of his creation), he already knows how everything will turn out? And because he knows this, it is in fact the case that everything is “predetermined” to a certain extent. Not in the sense that he eliminates free will, but because he already knew the outcome of each individual event before the world even existed.

That may sound a bit complicated. You have to get used to thinking in four dimensions, as Doc Brown would say.

I agree fallen man is all of those things.

But this is is the state of man without God.

Jesus said we can do nothing without Him.
Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

We are slaves to sin but with the power of God we can be set free.

This does not mean we have no choice.
Or have no free will.

Without Christ I will fall into sin but with Christ I can choose to follow the Spirit.

I choose, it is my free choice, but the power comes from faith in Jesus.

Jesus wants us all to follow Him and do good. He wants us all to overcome sin but we need to choose it.

Num 13:25 And they returned from searching of the land after forty days.

Did the people have free will???

Num 13:30 And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
Num 13:31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.

Two different spirts, one had faith in God, the other doubted God's ability.

God did not force them to have faith or not have faith. It was a free choice.

With faith comes power.

Num 14:22-24
22 Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice; 23 Surely they shall not see the land which I sware unto their fathers, neither shall any of them that provoked me see it: 24 But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it.

By faith we can overcome. We are not forced to have Faith.

Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Gal 5:16-17
16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve;....but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

I am in a way all of these. But most days more one than another, Calvin has greatly influenced my world view