Pope Francis has died

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A very controversial Pope.

The Good
He recognized The Reformation and encouraged Catholics to know Scripture as well as Protestants. This thawed connections with Catholics I personally witnessed, that those are Catholic Mission rather that hissing when I said I was Protestant welcomed me with a smile and wanted to hear from the Scriptures. Though I do have concerns it was part of a closet Counter Reformation to expose Protestants to Roman Catholic Dogmas as well.

The Bad
When he was made Pontiff he preached Atheists will even be saved just because Jesus died, rather than faith in Jesus saving (John 3:16, John 6:40, Romans 10:9-10) and that salvation is in no one else but Jesus Christ (Acts 4:10-12) and the only Way to the Father is through Jesus (John 14:6).

The Ugly
He did not address the sexual scandals satisfactorily. He should have handed over the guilty abusers to secular authorities, defrocking them and allowing them to have full might of justice come upon them, rather than shielding them in Ecclesiastical circles.
"Jesus said, It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble." (Luke 17:2)
 

Lynx

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Easter was on Sunday, April 20, the pope died on Monday, April 21. Wasn't really struck dead but rather died on natural causes.
Shhhhh! We don't do facts here.

I'm just hanging around to see who in the other thread wins the bet. They're already talking Antichrist here in this thread, so as soon as the Vatican gets the announcement out we'll see some real fireworks.

Joe, a guy at my job, gave it a whole HOUR from the Vatican's announcement to the announcement of the new pope being the Antichrist. I said that's pretty long, but it's his bet so I shrugged and put him down for an hour.
 

Lynx

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This whole thread reminds me of some people here in the USA who closely follow and hotly debate what the British royal family does.

WHO CARES?! That's not even our gossip! Shouldn't we leave this one for the Catholics to argue about?

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch two teams in states I've never been to play a football game and form some very strong opinions about who should have won and who should have played what position in a different manner.
 

HeIsHere

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Easter was on Sunday, April 20, the pope died on Monday, April 21. Wasn't really struck dead but rather died on natural causes.
Thank you, superstitious Christians is not a good look to the rest of the world.

They seem to forget God's wrath was poured out on His Son at the Cross.
 

ZNP

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Easter was on Sunday, April 20, the pope died on Monday, April 21. Wasn't really struck dead but rather died on natural causes.
Yes, that confused many of my students in Earth science as well. His time of death was 7:35 am on April 21, however, it took another 5 1/2 hours before the rest of the Earth was in April 21. So for about 20% of the Earth it was still April 20th. Therefore you are 80% right in saying it wasn't Resurrection day and those who say it was are also right.
 

SonJudgment

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The hype is building, the potential is there. Is the world ready for the first black Pope?

 
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Bergoglio's final words: FULL TEXT: Here is Pope Francis’ testament | Catholic News Agency

"Throughout my life, and during my ministry as a priest and bishop, I have always entrusted myself to the Mother of Our Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary."​

Not Jesus, Mary. He requested to be laid to rest at the Papal Basilica of Saint Mary Major because, in his words:

"I wish my final earthly journey to end precisely in this ancient Marian sanctuary, where I would always stop to pray at the beginning and end of every Apostolic Journey, confidently entrusting my intentions to the Immaculate Mother, and giving thanks for her gentle and maternal care."​

Anyone who is thinking Roman Catholicism is simpatico with Christianity should let this sink in.
 
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In addition, most in churches who claim to be Christian according to Jesus, will only have an outward for of godliness denying the power, compared to those who are truly His Own who will do even greater things than He.
 

ZNP

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Bergoglio's final words: FULL TEXT: Here is Pope Francis’ testament | Catholic News Agency

"Throughout my life, and during my ministry as a priest and bishop, I have always entrusted myself to the Mother of Our Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary."​

Not Jesus, Mary. He requested to be laid to rest at the Papal Basilica of Saint Mary Major because, in his words:

"I wish my final earthly journey to end precisely in this ancient Marian sanctuary, where I would always stop to pray at the beginning and end of every Apostolic Journey, confidently entrusting my intentions to the Immaculate Mother, and giving thanks for her gentle and maternal care."​

Anyone who is thinking Roman Catholicism is simpatico with Christianity should let this sink in.
I was tracking with you right up to the last sentence. It seems to me, and I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Roman Catholicism is a very big tent that allows all kinds of worship, and that does include the worship of Jesus Christ by some, even if it is a small minority. I do not know enough about them to know for sure, but I would not condemn everyone who is a Catholic because the Pope, and one of the sects in the church, the Jesuits. In my understanding they are Thyatira and they have some who have not known the deep things of Satan.