The conversion of the Philippian Jailer in Acts 16.

+ NOTHING! Thank you - In The Previous Covenental/Prophetic Dispensation for Israel,
water was Required!

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

However, in The Current Dispensation Of The Grace Of God, For The Body Of Christ,
there is Now ↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑ ONLY ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism!

Because God Does NOT Have "Bad Math!" [ ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism + water = 2 ], eh?

Amen.



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Amen.

It [baptism] is NOT a work because you don't baptize yourself, someone else does. You just submit to it IN FAITH because the Bible says to do so for salvation Mark 16:16 NKJV

CAPS FOR EMPHASIS

[16] He who believes AND IS baptized will be saved;

The second half of the verse explains why you have to accept baptism in faith for it to save

Mark 16:16 NKJV

[16b] ... but he who does not believe will be condemned.

This negate infant baptism as the child cannot submit in faith.

Baptism is: the answer of a good conscience but NOT a work, it IS an ACT of FAITH.

We see this played out in Acts with the Ethiopian Eunuch

Acts 8:36-37 NKJV

[36] Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said,

"See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?" [37] Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

BAPTISM:

is done FOR the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38)

is done to SAVE us (1Peter 3:21, Acts 2:40, Mark 16:16)

Is done to WASH AWAY OUR SINS (Acts 22:16)

is done to be REBORN to new life (John 3:5, Romans 6:3-6)

is done to CLOTHE ourselves with Christ (Gal 3:26-27)

is done so that GOD will RESURRECT us from death (Colossians 2:12, Romans 6:3-6)

is done as a REQUIRMENT to enter heaven (John 3:5, Mark 16:16)

is done to put us INTO CHRIST (Romans 6:3-6, Galatians 3:26-27)

Revelation 1:5 “washed us from our sins in His own blood”

You cannot contact His blood until you're "baptized into His death" (Rom. 6:3).

That's where the blood was shed.

Romans 6:3 explicitly makes baptism the access to Jesus’ blood by saying one is “baptized into his death.”

Baptism is an act of faith (Gal. 3:26) that puts one into Christ (v27) by the power of the gospel of Christ (Rom. 1:16) through faith in the operation/working of God (Col. 2:12). In baptism we are submitting to the work of God (Col. 2:11-12). We are earnestly seeking, craving, an intense desire to be saved by the blood of Christ. We earnestly seek a conscience reconciled to God. Christ’s blood cleanses one’s conscience in accordance with proper teaching, at baptism (Heb. 9:14; Acts 2:38, 22:16; Rev. 1:5). In baptism, we are putting our trust in the Lord, not ourselves. It is a work of God's righteousness. In baptism we declare our complete dependence upon God.

You have to have faith to perform an act of faith. Since one is saved through faith, and not acts of faith, one must already be saved before acting in faith.

Baptism in its proper place is that it pleases God. Why would anyone try to create doubt in someone's mind about doing something that pleases God?

Precious friend, then what do you do with God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, When

one only has Part of Scriptures, and and Incomplete Picture?:



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Amen.

Amen! Faith is faith and acts of faith which follow are works and we are saved through faith, not works. We do not baptize ourselves but we still submit to being baptized, so it's still a work. In Matthew 3:13-15, we read that Jesus submitted to being baptized and in doing so, Jesus said it is proper for us to fulfill all righteousness, so baptism is a work of righteousness and we are not saved by works of righteousness. (Titus 3:5)

Mark 16:15-16

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Jesus own words; pretty clear

Belief + baptism = salvation

Both are required. The words are inextricably linked together by the conjunctive word 'and'

The second clause clarifies the first - but he who does not believe shall be condemned.

Condemnation rests on unbelief, not on baptism. So salvation rests on belief, which is in harmony with John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If he who believes shall be saved (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 5:24; 6:40,47; 11:25,26) then he who believes and is baptized shall be saved as well, so the later is in regard to general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but has not been baptized, perhaps due to a death bed conversion.

Baptism is a “work” of God—just like “faith” is a “.work.” John 6:28-29. 2 Thess 1:11 and 1 Thess. 1:11. Jesus forever connects them together in Mark 16:16. The conjunction “and” joins things of EQUAL VALUE. That makes baptism of equal value as faith. They both originated with God—not man; that makes them not a work of man but a work of God. They are both COMMANDED by God, Colossians 2:12- “Buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the WORKING OF GOD. Baptism is a work of God that raises us up from baptism to a new life, just like God raised up Jesus from the dead. It is His work not ours and that’s not a “boastful work,” because it is not OUR work but His. Whatever faith is, baptism is too. Jesus says so. In scripture.

Sister, some people just don’t get it…and will argue against EVERY scripture in the Bible that speaks on the necessity of baptism. If someone tells he that comes to my house and shakes my hand gets a million dollars, but he that does come to my house gets nothing, would anyone argue over the fact that you’d have to go to my house and shake my hand to get a million dollars? If someone said he who comes to the car dealership and gets baptized gets a free car, fully paid for, but he who does not come to the dealership gets nothing, people would know in order to get a free car that you’d have to get baptized. Common sense, for many, goes out the window when approaching God’s word.

What some people "do get" From prayerful And Careful study Of God's Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided Is:

God's Correct Dispensation Of The GRACE Of Where There Is NO LONGER God's Previous
dispensation Of Law and water baptism, ONLY ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism!

UnScriptural or UNdispensational?

Amen.



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We Constantly pray that some people do "get it", eh?

And, AMEN!

In Matthew 3:13-15, we read that Jesus submitted to being baptized and in doing so, Jesus said it is proper for us to fulfill all righteousness, so baptism is a work of righteousness, and we are not saved by works of righteousness which we have done. (Titus 3:5)

In John 6:29, Jesus' play on words here - "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent," was in response to the Jews who were taking a legalistic approach when they asked, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?" Jesus was not implying that believing is just "another" work in a series of works in a quest to obtain salvation by works, which would contradict (Romans 3:24-28; 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9). There is a distinction between faith and works. Also, through believing, we are completely trusting in "Another's work," (Christ's finished work of redemption).

False. 1 Thessalonians 1:11? No such verse. Did you mean 1 Thessalonians 1:3? Notice the words "work of" faith, "labor of" love and "patience of" hope in 1 Thessalonians 1:3. These are the practical outworking of the Thessalonians' conversion. The "work" the Thessalonians do is a result or consequence of their faith. So too their "labor" flows from love and their "endurance" comes from hope. Work "of" faith does not mean that faith in essence is the work accomplished. Their work is a result or consequence "of" their faith. The work done is "of" faith or done "out of" faith. Faith was already established at conversion and then the work "followed" as a result or consequence "of" their faith. So, work "of" faith does not equate to work "is" faith.

In regard to Mark 16:16, the second clause clarifies the first - but he who is not baptized will be condemned. So, Jesus is speaking of
general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized. The omission of baptized with "does not believe" shows that Jesus does not make baptism absolutely necessary for salvation. Condemnation rests on unbelief and not on a lack of baptism. Jesus did not say, "whoever is not baptized will be condemned." *NOWHERE does the Bible say, "baptized or condemned."

If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation, then we would expect Jesus to mention it in the following verses. (3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26) Yet what is the 1 requirement that Jesus mentions 9 different times in each of these complete statements *BELIEVES. *What happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics.

John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

I already thoroughly covered all of this with you in post #98 from the link below.

James 2:14-26, A verse by verse study - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

Does anything that I explain to you sink in at all? I had to correct you on 1 Thessalonians 1:11 in a different post before. Do you actually take the time to examine what I explain to you or are you too busy "parroting off" what your predecessors before you have taught?

Regardless of where they both originated, faith is the assurance of things hoped for (Hebrews 11:1) and baptism is a work of righteousness. (Matthew 3:13-15; Titus 3:5) Not the same thing.

Your logic is flawed. I can see that you want to boast in your personal definition of non-boastful works. Faith AND baptism are two distinct things. Since believers receive the benefits of Christ’s death and resurrection (justification) and that through faith, believers must be spiritually united to Him (delivered and raised up with Him). If baptism is taken as the instrumental cause, then Paul contradicts what he had established before, namely that justification is by faith, not baptism. Paul clearly teaches that what is signified in baptism (buried and raised with Christ) actually occurs "through faith." Christians are "buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead" (Colossians 2:12). Justification on account of union in Christ's death, burial and resurrection is brought about "through faith" - and is properly symbolized by dipping the new believer in and out of the water. A symbol is not the reality but is a picture of the reality.

Faulty human logic and legalism is not common sense. There is more to understanding scripture than paper, ink and so-called common sense. (1 Corinthians 2:11-14)

Amen!

Yes we need to be careful to protect the finished work of Christ Jesus which is clearly taught in scripture, there is nothing we can add to His work except believe in/trust in/through faith in Him for the gift of salvation.

The Gospel does not include Baptism, is does not have any salvific power.

Romans 1:16-17 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”

So those who cannot be baptized for physical reasons, jail etc., they are not saved?

You cannot have it both ways, Baptism either saves or it does not .......and those who are unable to get baptized are unsaved according to your plan of salvation.

Faulty human logic indeed.
Two end points of faith required for salvation, one in Christ Jesus and another in the act of Baptism.

But is one really placing their faith in Christ Jesus fully in this situation?
I think not.

Paul said confess with your mouth and you will be saved. Using your reasoning a mute person can't be saved.

Confess with your mouth and be saved. According to your reasoning there are 2 endpoints of faith required for salvation: one in Christ and another in confession

Your reasoning just isn't working

Then in that case, it cannot be the physical mouth, eh?

Then what is the meaning If "applied to the dumb" So, they TOO "Can Be Saved"???

Can anyone show me where it is stated that faith alone saves a person? Paul said persons believe into righteousness with their hearts, which is not salvation. And they acknowledge into salvation with their mouth. So it's not just faith alone; acknowledgement that Jesus is lord is also required to be saved. And baptism is acknowledgment that Jesus is lord.