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When a man who walked/talked with Jesus tells me something is so I'm inclined to believe it, ie verses 16-21 are fulfilled
No problem, so far the context of Joel is not fullfilled, i dont believe that this is fully fulfilled. No reason to argue for 😀
It will come as the Lord says in his word to his time.
 

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To be fair it is not expected to have such a prophecy to be well received and there are not many scriptures that speak of it either yet you can feel it in your bones that it is true

He is creating for himself a new set of believers I have seen it in dreams have heartd it in my spirit I wrote about it and have been talking about it for a good while now

the timing of it is the issue is it before the tribulation in the middle of it is it after it is it specifically for israel?
 

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First thing you need to do is figure out...the last days of what? Once you do this, the rest is easy.
Another tip...all the promises of God, which includes prophecy, are in Him yes, and in Him amen.
 
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To be fair it is not expected to have such a prophecy to be well received and there are not many scriptures that speak of it either yet you can feel it in your bones that it is true

He is creating for himself a new set of believers I have seen it in dreams have heartd it in my spirit I wrote about it and have been talking about it for a good while now

the timing of it is the issue is it before the tribulation in the middle of it is it after it is it specifically for israel?
I would say it is for the church. Gods Plan with Israel is different.
 

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Pretty much the whole book of Revelation tells us that. How is what you said a prophecy?

John wrote the last of God's word to men, there's nothing more to be said.
it is a prophecy because many do not believe it they read it yet deny it so when people won't listen to his word he uses his church to speak
 

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it is a prophecy because many do not believe it they read it yet deny it so when people won't listen to his word he uses his church to speak
Huh? Are saying the Church is greater than the word? :confused:

If they won't believe the word what makes you think they will believe the Church?
 

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Huh? Are saying the Church is greater than the word? :confused:

If they won't believe the word what makes you think they will believe the Church?
no I am not saying that the church is greater but if one will not listen to his word he uses his children to speak on his behalf
he is a very patient and gracious Lord but you have seen how little impact his word makes on here right?
We can post scripture all day but it is either rejected completely or it is twisted and taken out of context

However I admit that it will still fall on many deaf ears either way
 

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Also @Brasspen I was wondering about the title of your thread what do you mean by testing the gift of prophecy? Are you testing the prophecy or testing the people who read it?
 

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no I am not saying that the church is greater but if one will not listen to his word he uses his children to speak on his behalf
he is a very patient and gracious Lord but you have seen how little impact his word makes on here right?
We can post scripture all day but it is either rejected completely or it is twisted and taken out of context

However I admit that it will still fall on many deaf ears either way
Whatever the Church says will be found in the scriptures (at least it should be) so I don't understand your point. What you're talking about, as far as I can see, is teaching not prophecy.
 

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Whatever the Church says will be found in the scriptures (at least it should be) so I don't understand your point. What you're talking about, as far as I can see, is teaching not prophecy.
There are many things not in scripture, you won't find the internet or t.v. in it nor airplanes or cars if everything could be found in scripture we wouldn't have these things yet they exist

This is why we need to understand and know how to hear the spirit's voice because not everything can be explained by scripture and we can be sola scripture if we want but that means if you cannot explain it with scripture you simply deny it even if it is truth or if it is a prophecy

stop trying to use logic to explain things seek God about it and listen with your heart he will speak the truth to you but only if your willing if you go into it with a preconcieved notion that being this is not a prophecy then that is all you will recieve but if you want to find out the truth for yourself go in to your prayer with a blank slate
 

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There are many things not in scripture, you won't find the internet or t.v. in it nor airplanes or cars if everything could be found in scripture we wouldn't have these things yet they exist

This is why we need to understand and know how to hear the spirit's voice because not everything can be explained by scripture and we can be sola scripture if we want but that means if you cannot explain it with scripture you simply deny it even if it is truth or if it is a prophecy

stop trying to use logic to explain things seek God about it and listen with your heart he will speak the truth to you but only if your willing if you go into it with a preconcieved notion that being this is not a prophecy then that is all you will recieve but if you want to find out the truth for yourself go in to your prayer with a blank slate
Sorry but that is the attitude that starts cults. If you're hearing voices, you best see a doctor. Your heart involves thinking, not feeling. It is where you store the things you value. What you value ought to be based on sound reasoning then, whatever emotional response you have to that, will also be sound.

You would make a good Mormon. Their understanding is based on experience and what you "feel in your heart". :)
 

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Sorry but that is the attitude that starts cults. If you're hearing voices, you best see a doctor. Your heart involves thinking, not feeling. It is where you store the things you value. What you value ought to be based on sound reasoning then, whatever emotional response you have to that, will also be sound.

You would make a good Mormon. Their understanding is based on experience and what you "feel in your heart". :)
We are not to lean on our own understanding for a reason and as for hearing voices have you never heard his voice? because that is very concerning if so I am not talking about voices in your head and I am also not talking about emotionalism either or feelings
 
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no I am not saying that the church is greater but if one will not listen to his word he uses his children to speak on his behalf
he is a very patient and gracious Lord but you have seen how little impact his word makes on here right?
We can post scripture all day but it is either rejected completely or it is twisted and taken out of context

However I admit that it will still fall on many deaf ears either way
Yes, but the scripture is the given measure. I have learned not to trust people. Even not if their are Christians.
It is not the written word wrong. It is the problem of hermeneutics. How I interprete the word. Many useing the word for to support their view. Instead to orientate their view, according what the bible says.
Till the Lord will come, I suppose this will not end.
 

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Yes, but the scripture is the given measure. I have learned not to trust people. Even not if their are Christians.
It is not the written word wrong. It is the problem of hermeneutics. How I interprete the word. Many useing the word for to support their view. Instead to orientate their view, according what the bible says.
Till the Lord will come, I suppose this will not end.
yes the word is to be the foundation but often times his word is treated with great disrespect but there are some things you won't find it scripture that exist today so not everything can be explained with it. what I think is important is that we know his voice even if this prophecy is false.
 

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Amos 3:7

Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.
True and I find it interesting I wrote about this in 2021, really if we just learn to hear his voice you don't have to be a prophet for him to reveal such things but every scripture I have found about revival is in the ot specifically king david asking for it
but we also have to understand how prophecy works it is often times repeated a precurser then the real thing usually two to three times

the word revival in both greek and hebrew means to renew bring back to life or to revive things to what they once were sounds about right if you ask me

There have been several revivals in history but very few of them happened after 1948 in fact this is also around the time the church began falling away becoming less and less what we were called to be and do