Understanding God’s election

I graduated with honors, yes.

After graduation I then discovered the pastor teacher who could teach in one hour more than most could teach in a year.
Bible college (not seminary) is only foundational.

Bible colleges were popping up in the 70's and 80's.
There were actually churches that actually systematically taught the Word of God, be it, correctly or not.


Would you like to also know the elementary school I attended as a boy?

I would much rather talk about a pastor-teacher who made corrections to some of the things I learned in Bible college.
He was a literal travelling seminary.

Billy Graham asked him to mentor him. Hal Lindsay and Chuck Swindoll were members of his congregation.
He was invited to give classes at universities and colleges.
His students were anywhere from high school graduates to professors!
Deep teaching when learned by grace gives one a perspicacity that exceeds beyond their normal human limitations.


And? By invite. He even gave a conference at MIT.

Yet, the average guy on the street also found themselves able to understand what they knew they could not have if it
depended upon their natural IQ. You know its by grace when that happens!

Take your pick of any Bible college in those days.... Its only a maternity ward.
Let's just say it was your Bible college.

Why not?

Maybe I got it wrong. Although, Genez and GWH both claim they studied [together] "under" R.B. Thieme. Where they studied, I don't know. Maybe one or both of them took online courses???

So...you went to a Fundamentalist college. The last place I would ever want to be to receive an education, since Fundies bring an awful lot of baggage to their theological positions.

Transparency Shirely isn't your long suit, is it?

Transparency Shirely isn't your long suit, is it?

Maybe I got it wrong. Although, Genez and GWH both claim they studied [together] "under" R.B. Thieme. Where they studied, I don't know. Maybe one or both of them took online courses???

You are stuck with the nipple of a baby bottle in your mouth!
You guys never grow up.
Always talking about how you think you were born....
Never growing up and leaving the cradle.

Maybe I got it wrong. Although, Genez and GWH both claim they studied [together] "under" R.B. Thieme. Where they studied, I don't know. Maybe one or both of them took online courses???

Maybe I got it wrong. Although, Genez and GWH both claim they studied [together] "under" R.B. Thieme. Where they studied, I don't know. Maybe one or both of them took online courses???

So you want me to name it so you can cast stones on it.

I see.
And, if anything, it was not from a fundy church.

But... If you want to cover what can be freely verified by others?

Go after my pastor if you wish.
That could lead to some constructive discussion.
That is why you only want to know where I attended God's elementary school.
You can't handle sound exegetical sound doctrinal teachings.
And, in your case...fundies make for an easy target for you.

Coward? Go after my pastor.
All his 50 years of teaching are freely available (no money asked for).
He taught six nights a week! From the Hebrew and Greek texts.

That kind of teaching is what many have prayed to God for...
But, not the lazy ones. Those who wish to make a niche for themselves within their very limited
area of knowledge which they find comfort in. For their own small world never challenges them
by exposing their dire deficiencies and need for growth.

I had to first learn how ignorant I was before I could learn God's Word.
I learned how stupid I was by being exposed to sound teaching, taught in a manner
that very few have the capacity and ability to present.

So be it. Stay where you are.

What are we told about mockery?
If I may, I find your post to be unkind. We do not gain anything in a debate if we seek to hurt someone's feelings by making fun of them.

Please consider my words are offered with love and respect.

"Cast stones" at your college? That poor institution must be a delicate little thing. I bet you even consider yourself to be a hero for being so protective of it. Just make sure that you don't smother it to death while its under your wing.

"Cast stones" at your college? That poor institution must be a delicate little thing. I bet you even consider yourself to be a hero for being so protective of it. Just make sure that you don't smother it to death while its under your wing.

You did not have to be in the Church building to learn. Faith comes by hearing.
The epistles were letters written so others could hear them read to the congregations.

All his lessons were recorded and distributed to anyone wanting to learn.
NO MONEY ASKED FOR...
One of his students was a professor who taught ancient languages to Bible students
Professor - WWll - Harvard, where he worked as an interpreter for the USA.
He was one person that recommended I give RB Thieme a listen.

There is no online courses!
He taught line upon line from many books. He simply taught the Bible.
It was not "a course."
It became a lifetime endeavor for those finding themselves wanting to grow with our daily bread.

As one Marine recruiter told me after giving him a few lessons to listen to....

.............. "I never heard anything like this before!"

And, proof of that?
Was shown when I learned he had all the branches of the Military come to his office (in his building)
and listen to those messages. The Army, Navy, Airforce, Coast Guard... all sat and listened.

This was no ordinary teacher.

Rufus you have no idea what you are missing!

Can you explain Joseph and his brothers?

Diagnosis...

Schoolyard bully syndrome.

Sure. Jacob had 2 wives and quite a lot of energy. One thing led to another, and before you knew it, Jacob had quite a large family.

Yeah, I do! I attended Florida Bible College for two years when it was in Hollywood Beach -- a Fundie college if there ever was one! Freewillers and dispens flourished there. My real growth came after I left that place.

Oh...so you took psychology courses there, too? I bet they called you Dr. Shrink Wrap.

So, Peter in first epistle was writing it to "service"?

God chose Israel to his chosen nation, didn't he? He chose Abraham to bring forth that nation, didn't he? And he chose Issac over Ishmael to inherit the promises God gave to his father, didn't he? And he chose Jacob over Esau. And God chose to raise up ungodly servants, as well, didn't he? He chose Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus, etc.