Predestination is misunderstood...

God is truly amazing. Even as you were sharing that I need not waste time, but redeem it,God showed me a way to do that.
Grace and peace.

I have already sated based on your understanding of the meaning of the word, I agree, God is not fair. The problem is your understanding of the word is incorrect and you refuse to be corrected on it.

So be it.

where still no nearer, but that's ok to discussing the original suggestion

If it makes you feel better I'll give you some patience 😊

So....no verse where God claims to be fair? No comment on the sovereign landowner? No offer from scripture defining what fair means? Just I'm wrong?

I showed you what the word fair means and it doesn't mean "to treat all people the same" so yes, you're wrong. Apply the correct meaning to the word and then find scripture that shows God is unfair.

Ok.

everyone is indeed chosen either for salvation or damnation and the seed given is the Gospel which is an aroma of life unto life to some and to others it is an aroma of death unto death (2 Cor 2:14-16).

Before the foundations of the heavens, the earth, the seas and all that is in them which Scripture applies as being before time began (2 Tim 1:9) and before anyone was born.

Rom 9:11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls),

Does the Bible claim that God is smart? It does not.

One might wonder about that since man was supposed to have been made in His image....

The Scriptures are quite clear that spiritually dead men hate God and would never choose Him unless they are first made spiritually alive and this is why salvation is of and and belongs to the Lord and not the choice of men.

You're waiting.

Your only purpose here is to disrupt and distract others away from having a constructive dialogue for better understanding truth of God's Word.

Tell me. Why did you volunteer for the job?
Does Satan pay that well?

I hear his wages are going to cost you more than you bargained for.

You're not even clever.

Maybe clever in the sense like the grinning guy who holds a gun to his head with only one round in the chamber,
pulling the trigger wanting to get people to react to his "bravery."

You may grow up some day. So stick around. You might eventually learn something... if the devil gives you permission to.

Wishing you a nice Day.

Here.. Let's see what that says in our English that we speak with today....

grace and peace ................

God showed me to say that....

Ok what? Being wrong? Go for it. She's apples ... She'll be right on the Day .. afterall, it's all good ain't it.

Did God lie in what He said below, because Adam ending up living to the ripe old age of 930?

Gen 2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."

He died spiritually when God removed His spirit from him and began to die physically.

Scripture is clear that all have lost the image and likeness of God, are spiritually dead and cursed, slaves to sin and Satan, his children and bear his evil image unless they are born again by grace in Christ.

Eph 2:1 And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins,

Eph_2:5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved),

Col_2:13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses,

1Pe_4:6 For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

Joh_5:25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live.

Luk_9:60 Jesus said to him, "Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and preach the kingdom of God."

Christ is speaking of the glory of His Kingdom judgement that was soon to fall upon those living in Jerusalem.

Christ's Kingdom is a spiritual Kingdom.

Luk_17:21 nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."

Hold up. You advised me to redeem the time. Then we established that I couldn't do that and chat with you. So which is it? Redeem the time? Or respond to you?

spiritually dead men can indeed do all of those things but they can never choose God unless God has first chosen them.

Joh 6:44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:65 And He said, "Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father."

I only added my observation of what common sense would say, that it is impossible to choose something you can not see.

Do you have a problem with God choosing people?

Knowing God? It had to be fair.

Those who showed later in the day and got paid the same may have been poor and needed to stay home longer to tend to his family's immediate needs, like hunting and gathering firewood for what he was unable to purchase.

The Lord being fair, paid to give the man what was needed for him to break the cycle of poverty, thus enabling that man to begin to live, rather than always having to struggle.

That's not fair?