The Error of KJV-Onlyism

I think there's an assumption that those who decided to use the KJV as their only English Bible do so because they are stupid and intellectually retarded.

Its always good to see your will to help friend, you've given some really good words to this thread,

we need you more than ever blain the spiritual forces of the enemy is worse than ever in the world,

This is for sure, to much is happening.

To much crime is going unchecked.

We are in tribulation friend but there is light for those who endure and fight,

We fight with our strength to be kind in theese dark times, and we ignore anything other than this kind nature.

Even in the face of the enemy where a kind word is not spoken, all we have to say well that's very kind of you say so.
Or I will take note thanks.

Or dont say anything at all

I've already ignored several posts to day but I may just go back and leave a blessing.

It might be a silent prayer as I don't need to say anything or write anything.

Just as I pray for you to be stronger than ever before and for God to give you the strength of Samson


You can see the fallen world here at cc more than ever to friend,

When you speak the words of the lord to some people here you can see how much there not over coming the spiritual forces of wickedness, they have a long way to go friend,

This is why need strong brothers like you who can endure friend.

But it's maybe better if you take part in threads where there is no such attempts to wage war on his kingdom as you need rebuilding, I sense friend.
There unkind words of the enemies hatred might be the words that push you over the edge or they might be the words that say well I'll just come back another time stronger than ever.

And spur my brothers on



This place I've noticed lately has become full of false prophets friend
Spreading the seed of doubt and baring false testimony of people's character.

Don't let them win by having them make you believe your at fault, even tho tho they be smart or intelligent,

Real intelligence comes from wisdom and insight from Him,

But it comes not once but every minutes every day as we seek his nature his wisdom his words friend.

It can't be a quick little bit of insight now in theese times.

we must seek like never before friend

and we will crush the forces of wickedness friend,

with all his avenging angels

and all his authority

I will become the brother

who will live in hostility with brothers

for you friend I will be like Ishmeal for you.

And I'm the silly one? It's amazing to see. The "only" in KJV will cause brothers to break fellowship and cause congregations to split. THAT should make believers pause. SMH.

Oh, hey we are of the same mind. We believe and trust in the same things. We are on the same path! Praise God! Wait, what? You don't exclusively use the KJV!?!?.......You're dead to me.

The King James Bible reigned supreme

You were the ones who departed from the established Bible that was good enough for Christians for centuries.

I think there's an assumption that those who decided to use the KJV as their only English Bible do so because they are stupid and intellectually retarded.

We didn’t start this fight or split. Your side did. The King James Bible reigned supreme as the dominant Bible for hundreds of years until the Modern Bible Movement took hold. Here in America, the Westcott and Hort movement did not hit us until the 1960s when they also took Bible (KJV) teaching out of public schools.

Westcott and Hort created their Greek text in 1881. That is when the battle and split from your side began. You were the ones who departed from the established Bible that was good enough for Christians for centuries.



Some may be that extreme. I wouldn’t say that. I would say it is a great spiritual danger not having a perfect Word of God as the Bible teaches. One could potentially fall away from the faith as a result. I am not saying it is going to happen, but Modern Bibles and Modern scholarship can lead folks astray to believe exceptionally wrong things.

In other words @Blain I will become a wild donkey of a man for you 😊.

But not so wild that my swords will not be crossed, as they will be crossed for you friend. But not crossed for others.. nope they will get lash after lash, with a no surrender policy in place 😊

Yea but he wasn't.

Nobody was saying Hosea fornicated before marrying Gomer.

Not reading into it what YOU seem to be reading it.

The KJV didn't cause a split. It is the "ONLY" that started it.

Your choice of words is disturbing.

Who is the "You" here? Anyone who disagrees with you? It looks like you're becoming paranoid about this.

The book of Hosea isn't scripture?
I went way past a scripture or passage. I gave you a whole book. Not my fault you don't understand it. Especially since I connected all the dots for you.

Any relationship that God has with fallen man is a relationship with to a harlot. The whole book is a love story about a man who enters into a relationship with someone who is unworthy to be in relationship with him. Despite having taken her away from the degradation of her past life and offering a life of peace and joy, she returns to her former ways. Because of his great love for her, he humbles himself and pays all that is necessary to get her back.
This is a picture of what God has done in relationship to mankind; first with Israel, and now with all mankind. Since it is an OT story, it is indicative first of Israel, and secondarily, of all mankind.
The scripture is the book itself. It is actual history. But it is also an allegory relating primarily God's relationship with Israel. I can't make you accept this, but it's the correct understanding.
What do you think God is teaching through the book?

We didn’t start this fight or split. Your side did. The King James Bible reigned supreme as the dominant Bible for hundreds of years until the Modern Bible Movement took hold. Here in America, the Westcott and Hort movement did not hit us until the 1960s when they also took Bible (KJV) teaching out of public schools.

Westcott and Hort created their Greek text in 1881. That is when the battle and split from your side began. You were the ones who departed from the established Bible that was good enough for Christians for centuries.



Some may be that extreme. I wouldn’t say that. I would say it is a great spiritual danger not having a perfect Word of God as the Bible teaches. One could potentially fall away from the faith as a result. I am not saying it is going to happen, but Modern Bibles and Modern scholarship can lead folks astray to believe exceptionally wrong things.

No, it isn't. It's a simple metaphor, which I have explained. You have either ignored or rejected the plain sense and made up a fantasy.

1 Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail from among the children of men.

The subject of this verse is "the godly man" and "the faithful".

2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.

The "they" here implies everyone else; the godless.

3 The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things:

4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?

The godless have said such things.

5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him.

The first and last "him" here refer to "the poor" and "the needy". What will the Lord do? Set them in safety from the godless.

6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

God just spoke in verse 5. This verse tells us the certainty of His words (words, specific, not word, general).

7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

The "them" here is a clear reference back to "the poor" and "the needy" from verse 5, whom the Lord will "set in safety". God will certainly preserve "the poor" and "the needy" from "this [godless] generation forever."

8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.

This verse is a summary on the state of things; odd to our modern English ears, but not uncommon in the Psalms.


If we claim that the "them" of verse 7 refers to 'the words of the Lord', the whole Psalm is disjointed as verses 6 and 7 are out of context. If it refers to "the poor" and "the needy", the whole Psalm makes sense. The Lord spoke in verse 5; verse 6 reinforces the certainty of His words, and verse 7 gives their application. Simple, plain, logical, and specific.

Please provide verse number citations for your belief on what the book of Hosea says. In other words, you are summarizing what Scripture says in your own words and you are not quoting Scripture. Someone can come to false conclusions about a book in the Bible. So the burden of proof is on you to prove your case with Scripture.

The text says,

“The beginning of the word of the Lord by Hosea. And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the Lord.” (Hosea 1:2).

Read this above verse. Notice what it says. Hosea was being told to take a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms.

It seems highly unlikely that the children here were prostitutes. Whoredoms is a reference to idolatry.

Hosea is the man of God. Gomer was his wife to marry. Textual Critics, certain Modern Translations, and most Christians (I have encountered) believe that God was telling Hosea to marry Gomer who was already a prostitute. This runs contrary to what the King James Bible teaches.

Sure, it's my summary. But it is what the book is teaching. I asked you what you believe it teaches. No answer.

You say I don't offer scripture. I offer the entire book. Show me from the book where I am wrong.

God told Abraham to leave his father's home. Should I say that didn't happen because he was supposed to honor his father and mother? God told Joshua and other leaders to kill entire peoples. Should I believe that didn't happen because God says do not kill? Should I believe God didn't swear by Himself to Abraham because we are told not to swear an oath?

No answer with those Scripture verses, either.



It’s not my responsibility to prove your case. You need to prove your case with Scripture so we can discuss it.



Right. These are specific things that can be looked up in Scripture. You are speaking in generality of an entire book in the Bible.

So no Bible verse or passage proving your case, and I will move on assuming you do not actually have any verses backing up your claims.