Why… we are not… and will not… go through the Tribulation.

It's the interesting part of threads about pre/post/mid tribulation ect. in that many view these events as future events(your wording in your post is future tense),,, Any way though if for instance the heat domes,C-19 ect.(current events taking place on earth) are fulfillment's of the great heat in Rev. 16 https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/16.htm or the river drying up(worldwide) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/9.htm ,,,,,,,the point is though if you notice in the Scriptures I gave is that these things happen to those who do worship the image and already have taken that mark so it's not future tense but instead it's past and current but they haven't yet figured out what it is and as in both chapters "they repented not",,,,

The most important thing about being still here when the AC and the mark of the beast shows up is that you've built up your faith in the Lord, continually abiding in Him, not so much prepping and stockpiling food, etc. unless God specifically tells the individual believer to do that.

The building up of faith and abiding in the Lord is the most important because He is our actual protection and provision. He will provide until it's time to either die for the Lord (or just from natural causes - that's up to God) or He comes to pick us up.

When I first had come to the conclusion that the rapture is Post-Trib, I was honestly very scared. I started looking up prepper videos to learn how to grow my own food and purify water. I even looked up solar panels for energy. But doing all that just made me more anxious!

God had to calm me down and He laid it on my heart that I'm focusing on all the wrong things. So what am I supposed to do? Bible say to endure to the end (Matthew 24:13) in regard to the last days. So the MOST IMPORTANT thing is to build up my faith and fellowship with the Lord. So I prayed about that to the Lord and I learned it is all about constantly submitting my all to Him in all things.

God started putting events in my life where my faith was being challenged. At first I thought maybe He was angry at me, but God corrected my thinking on that. He was allowing difficult things into my life in order to put into practice being faithful to Him and trusting Him through them!

For example, I'm not making as much money as I used to and I've gone through situations where I just didn't have enough money for some sort of emergency. I learned to completely trust God for provision -- AND HE HAS COME THROUGH EVERY TIME!!!

I've also come across people who have been bullying me. I was upset that God was allowing them to continue to do that and without repercussion, but God had told me to reread the parts of the Bible where His servants were greatly persecuted (which was often, actually). He laid it on my heart that in order to be strong in the coming Great Tribulation, I have to exercise my faith in Him in the adversities He's allowed into my life right now. And because He explained that to me, I've been able to handle these adversities so much better!

So yeah, right now I'm not stockpiling any food or gun or ammo or energy. I'm building up my faith in the Lord to endure to the end.

PS - The Bible says that most Christians will die at the hand of the AC - mostly from refusing the mark of the beast. There's also nuclear wars and natural plagues too. I'm not anything special so I'm pretty sure I'll be one of those Christians who die, so I don't see any point in stockpiling food.

The Church will be taken up before Tribulation begins.

There is a rapture that is post-trib. It is a Jewish rapture of the remnant during the time of Jacob's trouble. However, the body of Christ was a mystery and so will be the rapture of the body of Christ. It is not spoken of in Matthew. The rapture in Matthew is Jewish in nature.

There are no Christian’s found in Matthew 24, only Jews. The body of Christ was in mystery form.

Nothing He says in Matthew 24 is only for “Jews.”

If it's just Jewish, He would have said so. But that's not being said anywhere in what Jesus said.

PS - You're just wasting time arguing when you should be building up your faith in the Lord.

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Lol, you probably shouldn't judge another. It's a discussion forum. That's all. I build up my faith in God's word daily. I teach God's word daily and on Sunday mornings. I spend hours of my day in God's word building my faith. Thank you for your concern. This is nothing to cause division, just discussion. Blessings!

Meh. You're fake laughing now, but will you be when you're still here and the AC shows up?

1) It's not judging and causing division when encouraging people to build their faith up for the coming Great Tribulation.

2) The Pharisees were teachers too so not impressed that you teach.

3) Building up your faith in God's Word, okay. Are you putting it into practice? Has God started putting you through the paces so that you can exercise that faith? Has He allowed people to give you a hard time to do that? Has He withheld the means to buy and sell things so you can practice trusting Him for provision?

It's going to be worse than you think where your faith in God will be challenged by Satan, the AC and the world when you're still here. I'm trying to keep you from a) falling away and b) betraying other Christians when that happens.

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So when the one-world government enforces the mark, since you don't think it's not THE mark of the beast, you're going to take it?

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I believe everything in Chapter 12 is past history.

So - are you suggesting that the Second Coming of Christ occurred in 70 A.D.? And, that the time of the Two Witnesses occurred back then as well?

Here is one thing that I think must be understood.

• The Church is not subject to the Wrath of God.
• This pretrib or no trib will not make it without the Holy Spirit in the Rapture or through the Great Tribulation.

No matter where you stand, one thing from today's standing the church collectively is crying " Temple of the Lord," yet they are working as Ichabod. Many will fall in the Great Tribulation or miss the Rapture because They have a form of godliness but deny the Power thereof.


Many love to debate Theological topics but have hate, perversion, and unforgiveness in their heart. They are silent as children are being given over to the modern-day Baal in LGBTQ worship. And say nothing because it is unpopular to do so. If you won't stand for God when it is unpopular how are you going to do so in the Great Tribulation? LOL You won't. Many can't even hold the line with their own family members who live in sin and give in because they are a Son or Daughter.

Argue there is no Rapture says we are going through the Trib, ok But if you think God is mocked and winks are your foolishness and you by your own will can suffer unto death, you do not know the word of God.

Jesus said, "You will receive power After the Holy Ghost has come upon you and you will be my (martyr) witnesses."
Acts 1:8

We can't even STAND against evil and be salt in a dying world. Jesus said the gate of Hell will not Prevail.

Those who hold to the tribulation saying bring it on but hiding, those who say Bring on the Rapture are not working until he comes.

Both are Hypocrites. None are ready for either event. Wake UP!

if you have not shared Jesus with someone who is not on a website, you are the problem.

Both the Tribulation period and the Great Tribulation are periods of divine judgments. So making a fine distinction may not be necessary. The wrath of God would correspond to the Great Tribulation, but the Tribulation itself is for the unbelieving Jews -- not the Church, the Bride of Christ.

I dont know which way you believe and with this type of attitude you have, i dont even care. You are on my side friend. We are siding with Jesus

I believe the most important thing is what you said at the end: BEING PREPARED; sharing the gospel. Doing the work God gave you to do and moving to Greenland is God told you so!

Both the Tribulation period and the Great Tribulation are periods of divine judgments. So making a fine distinction may not be necessary. The wrath of God would correspond to the Great Tribulation, but the Tribulation itself is for the unbelieving Jews -- not the Church, the Bride of Christ.

Do you see the Devil still in the earth currently?

No. I didn't say that at all. Hasn't yet happened, but the tribulation spoken of in Matthew 24 did

What/Where in the Bible differentiates between two separate "periods" known as 'Tribulation' and 'Great Tribulation'?

As opposed to what???

Yes - and, trying to totally destroy every good thing there is in the world...