Saved by faith alone?
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Okay but why does it not mean what it says?
This is the text:
Acts 2:37-39
37 When the people heard this, they were deeply upset. They asked Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?”
38 Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. 39 This promise belongs to you and to your children and to everyone who is far away. It belongs to everyone who worships the Lord our God.”
This is the promise, this is the Gospel.
To deny, alter, malign or ignore these words to fit faith alone regeneration theology is pushing a false gospel.
There is a very good reason why you can not find an example of the use of "faith alone" when it comes to salvation. Because it does not exist.
It should exist if it was the core tenet of the Gospel. But it is certainly not, hence its absence.
I truly cannot make this any clearer. If you cannot see this then you are either in the ditch or leading others to it.
This is the text:
Acts 2:37-39
37 When the people heard this, they were deeply upset. They asked Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?”
38 Peter answered them, “All of you must turn to God and change the way you think and act, and each of you must be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ so that your sins will be forgiven. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. 39 This promise belongs to you and to your children and to everyone who is far away. It belongs to everyone who worships the Lord our God.”
This is the promise, this is the Gospel.
To deny, alter, malign or ignore these words to fit faith alone regeneration theology is pushing a false gospel.
There is a very good reason why you can not find an example of the use of "faith alone" when it comes to salvation. Because it does not exist.
It should exist if it was the core tenet of the Gospel. But it is certainly not, hence its absence.
I truly cannot make this any clearer. If you cannot see this then you are either in the ditch or leading others to it.
In the KJV verse 37 reads...When they heard this, they were pricked in their hearts, and said men and brethren, what shall we do?
Before they are told what to do they heard the word of God...faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Faith is already present. They were also pricked in their hearts. This is the circumcision of the heart pictured in physical circumcision. It is what Ezekiel 36:26 is describing in taking out the heart of stone and giving a heart of flesh.
In this condition, their response was what is the proper response. This isn't surprising given that faith always calls for a response. Plenty of other people heard the same words and did not respond this way. Why? Because the operation of faith was not present in them.
Before they are told what to do they heard the word of God...faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Faith is already present. They were also pricked in their hearts. This is the circumcision of the heart pictured in physical circumcision. It is what Ezekiel 36:26 is describing in taking out the heart of stone and giving a heart of flesh.
In this condition, their response was what is the proper response. This isn't surprising given that faith always calls for a response. Plenty of other people heard the same words and did not respond this way. Why? Because the operation of faith was not present in them.
Grace. That's God's part in providing mankind a way of salvation through Jesus Christ.
Faith. Better translated 'living faith' is the believer's part in conducting an acceptable walk with Christ.
Works. Works are the evidence that something significant has transpired in a believer's life resulting in doing good for the cause of Christ. Works don't save you but neither does grace if you don't accept it. And neither does faith if it's not 'living faith.' You can't separate grace, faith, and works.
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Works are not only the evidence that one has accepted God's grace by sending His son, they are what determine our reward. As long as we don't do them only to be seen and noticed. Mathew 23:5.
Faith. Better translated 'living faith' is the believer's part in conducting an acceptable walk with Christ.
Works. Works are the evidence that something significant has transpired in a believer's life resulting in doing good for the cause of Christ. Works don't save you but neither does grace if you don't accept it. And neither does faith if it's not 'living faith.' You can't separate grace, faith, and works.
Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
Works are not only the evidence that one has accepted God's grace by sending His son, they are what determine our reward. As long as we don't do them only to be seen and noticed. Mathew 23:5.
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What is obedience? Work. What is baptism? A work.
You are preaching from a spirit of Cain. Abel brought innocent blood to sacrifice, that is what God demanded. Cain (you) are bringing the works of your hands (a sheaf of wheat from Cain, and baptism from you). See how God reacted to bringing ANYTHING but the blood?
Come on, do not go down this path.
You are preaching from a spirit of Cain. Abel brought innocent blood to sacrifice, that is what God demanded. Cain (you) are bringing the works of your hands (a sheaf of wheat from Cain, and baptism from you). See how God reacted to bringing ANYTHING but the blood?
Come on, do not go down this path.
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You made this up!!!
Jesus shed His blood "because" our sins were already forgiven? Have you no bounds? He shed His blood "so that" our sins would be forgiven.
Do ANY of these verses say "because of" in your Bible?
There is NO version of the Bible, either old or modern that translate ANY of these verses in such a way as to imply "because of".
Nor are there ANY versions in other languages that translate ANY of these verses in such a way as to imply "because of".
Regardless of what the ENGLISH word "for" can mean, it is what the GREEK word "eis" means. And it certainly does not mean "because of".
Are you and others so blinded by faith alone regeneration theology that you are willing to go down this absurd road. Did every Bible translation, in every language get it wrong by not using "because of".
If Luke wanted to write "because of" in Acts 2:38 he simply would have used "hoti" which means "because of" in Greek. A word Luke was very familiar with since he used it well over 150 times.
I would like to hear from other faith alone regeneration theology followers about this notion. Do you agree with this?
Jesus shed His blood "because" our sins were already forgiven? Have you no bounds? He shed His blood "so that" our sins would be forgiven.
Do ANY of these verses say "because of" in your Bible?
There is NO version of the Bible, either old or modern that translate ANY of these verses in such a way as to imply "because of".
Nor are there ANY versions in other languages that translate ANY of these verses in such a way as to imply "because of".
Regardless of what the ENGLISH word "for" can mean, it is what the GREEK word "eis" means. And it certainly does not mean "because of".
Are you and others so blinded by faith alone regeneration theology that you are willing to go down this absurd road. Did every Bible translation, in every language get it wrong by not using "because of".
If Luke wanted to write "because of" in Acts 2:38 he simply would have used "hoti" which means "because of" in Greek. A word Luke was very familiar with since he used it well over 150 times.
I would like to hear from other faith alone regeneration theology followers about this notion. Do you agree with this?
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Here is the text:
Genesis 4:3-7
3 And in the course of time Cain brought an offering from the fruit of the ground to Yahweh, 4 and Abel also brought an offering from the choicest firstlings of his flock. And Yahweh looked with favor to Abel and to his offering, 5 but to Cain and to his offering he did not look with favor. And Cain became very angry, and his face fell. 6 And Yahweh said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why is your face fallen? 7 If you do well will I not accept you? But if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. And its desire is for you, but you must rule over it.”
You are in error. Both Cain and Abel brought an offering from the work of their hands. Cain and Abel both worked to produce their offering.
"If you do well will I not accept you?" God is clearly demanding that Cain do something in order for God to accept him.
The "spirit of Cain" is known as the spirit of disobedience. So it seems that if you are labeling obedience as not an acceptable offering then it is you who is preaching from the spirit of Cain.
Genesis 4:3-7
3 And in the course of time Cain brought an offering from the fruit of the ground to Yahweh, 4 and Abel also brought an offering from the choicest firstlings of his flock. And Yahweh looked with favor to Abel and to his offering, 5 but to Cain and to his offering he did not look with favor. And Cain became very angry, and his face fell. 6 And Yahweh said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why is your face fallen? 7 If you do well will I not accept you? But if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. And its desire is for you, but you must rule over it.”
You are in error. Both Cain and Abel brought an offering from the work of their hands. Cain and Abel both worked to produce their offering.
"If you do well will I not accept you?" God is clearly demanding that Cain do something in order for God to accept him.
The "spirit of Cain" is known as the spirit of disobedience. So it seems that if you are labeling obedience as not an acceptable offering then it is you who is preaching from the spirit of Cain.
I said I did not know your question, which you said
"The question is rather simple. Are the phrases equivalent? "
I would say there is no salvation without BOTH, and they are SIMULTANEOUS.
I don't get into that OSAS or Calvinist Armenian argument. They are debated by those who in both sides claim to be saved LOL.
LOL hahahaha
"The question is rather simple. Are the phrases equivalent? "
I would say there is no salvation without BOTH, and they are SIMULTANEOUS.
I don't get into that OSAS or Calvinist Armenian argument. They are debated by those who in both sides claim to be saved LOL.
LOL hahahaha