Don't Put God In A Box

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ResidentAlien

Well-known member
Apr 21, 2021
8,275
3,606
113
As I mentioned before, there's a certain class of people who say they love God's word; but the "box" they hate is sound doctrine. They will say it's a new day and God is revealing truths in the scriptures that have been hidden until now. Typically, they use isolated scriptures taken out of context to justify teachings they've made up out of thin air. They may say things that are true, but they don't follow the complete way of truth and sound doctrine. This type of person is even more subtle and crafty than the person who flat out rejects God's word.
 
Jun 20, 2022
6,460
1,330
113
As I mentioned before, there's a certain class of people who say they love God's word; but the "box" they hate is sound doctrine. They will say it's a new day and God is revealing truths in the scriptures that have been hidden until now.
I am not addressing You, Alien, just cherry picking your thoughts and wording.

Considering, major Doctrines, in the past 400 years, using the Septuagint as Biblical Foundation:
Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?
The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.

What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.

What is Esoteric Writings?

a personal interpretation!


I believe it can be safe to say ,when someone Closes the Septuagint, and begins looking at God from the Hebrew Torah/Tanakh, the Version God Commanded to be placed in His Own Ark of Covenant, Holy of Hollies, Temple, it will be Factual to READ and to .... as you put it.... They will say it's a new day and God is revealing truths in the scriptures that have been hidden until now.
 

Lafftur

Senior Member
Apr 18, 2017
6,886
3,631
113
As I mentioned before, there's a certain class of people who say they love God's word; but the "box" they hate is sound doctrine. They will say it's a new day and God is revealing truths in the scriptures that have been hidden until now. Typically, they use isolated scriptures taken out of context to justify teachings they've made up out of thin air. They may say things that are true, but they don't follow the complete way of truth and sound doctrine. This type of person is even more subtle and crafty than the person who flat out rejects God's word.
@ResidentAlien -

According to Biblical sound doctrine, what can you tell me about God’s Love for you and your love for God? :unsure::love:
 

ResidentAlien

Well-known member
Apr 21, 2021
8,275
3,606
113
According to Biblical sound doctrine, what can you tell me about God’s Love for you and your love for God?
If you don't know already I don't know what to say. Study your Bible.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
59,967
29,319
113
If you don't know already I don't know what to say. Study your Bible.
How is Lafftur supposed to know what you can tell her of God's love according to sound Biblical doctrine? .:unsure:

Studying the Bible is not going to tell her what you think and/or believe on this matter, either.
 

Lafftur

Senior Member
Apr 18, 2017
6,886
3,631
113
If you don't know already I don't know what to say. Study your Bible.

Just like the Pharisees… avoiding the questions that could have opened their blind eyes…


it takes humility to answer the question I asked.

Those Pharisees were full of pride…
 

ResidentAlien

Well-known member
Apr 21, 2021
8,275
3,606
113
Just like the Pharisees… avoiding the questions that could have opened their blind eyes… it takes humility to answer the question I asked. Those Pharisees were full of pride…
Same old broken record: Pharisee, religious, blah, blah, blah. Funny, I didn't really see a question. I saw a statement with a question mark at the end of it.
 

Lafftur

Senior Member
Apr 18, 2017
6,886
3,631
113
Same old broken record: Pharisee, religious, blah, blah, blah. Funny, I didn't really see a question. I saw a statement with a question mark at the end of it.

@ResidentAlien -

According to Biblical sound doctrine, what can you tell me about God’s Love for you and your love for God? :unsure::love:
 

Blain

The Word Weaver
Aug 28, 2012
19,212
2,547
113
Really glad you are out of that horror house Blain and are enjoying your time with God.
wELL LOOKING BACK i SHOULDN'T BE SURPROSED A COMMON THEME WITH ME IS THINGS HAVE TO GET AT THEIR WORST BEFORE THEY REALLY GET BETTER.

oF COURSE i AM SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW THAT WORKS WITH MY WALK WITH HIM WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH IN NO UNDERSTANEMENT HELL BUT HE AND i ALWAYS HAD A UNIQUE RELATIONSHIP A VERY DEEP ALMOST KIND OF ROMANTIC SORT OF ONE THE LOVE WE HAVE FOR EACH OTHER LITERALLY RESEMBLES THE LOVE YOU WOULD HAVE FOR AT THE MOST PERSONAL AND HEART MOVING LEVEL.

tHAT LOVE WE HAD WAS ALWAYS THE ONE THING THAT KEPT ME GOING EVEN WHEN i GAVE UO THE LOVE WE HAD MADE HIM STEP UP.

i WON'T LIE i SAID SOMETHING VERY PROFOUND TO HIM A WHILE BACK AND IT COMES TO MIND RIGHT NOW BUT i HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD BY PEOPLE i MEET EVEN WHEN i WAS IN THE HOSPITAL i NEED TO WRITE A BOOK

sOME SAW MY POEMS SOME SAW THIS WISDOM IN ME THE LAST NURSE i HAD ION THE HOSPITAL BECAME ASTONISEHDED AT MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT BEING A GOOD PARENT IS SHE LITERALLY ASKED ME WHO RAISED ME AND ALMOST DEMANDED i WRITE A BOOK FOR PARENTS IT WAS KIND OF EMBARRASING

bUT i HAVE ALWAYS ALWAYS BEEN A WRITER AT HEART AND NEVER WROTE A BOOK BEFORE IT JUST NEVER SEEMED LIKE i COULD PUT MY HEART INTO IT.

bUT MAYBE THREE WEEKS AGO i WAS IN WORSHIP WITH HIM AND JUST BEING SO CLOSE HIM THAT i ALMOST WAS OUT OF THIS MIND LIKE NOT INSANE BUT i WAS OUT OF MY HEAD OUT OF THIS REALITY IT WAS JUST HIM HIS GOLDEN WARMTH AND i SAID TO HIM i WANTED TO WRITE A BOOK TOGETHER WITH HIM

I am sorry I only just realized the caps was on that happens a lot nowadays.
But I told him that I wasn't going to write a book unless it was a book written by both him and I a book written with him not about him or about anything in particular I just know I said to him and this part is odd even to me that it would be a holy book not because it itself is holy like the bible but because it was written from hearts and both him and I

What I found with him coming out of that place has brought me to places with him I never dreamed we could in this physical world but he just loves to be his sneaky playful self and show me what's what
 

Blain

The Word Weaver
Aug 28, 2012
19,212
2,547
113
Hello sweet Blain! :love:

So sorry I haven’t been on CC consistently. I’m so glad your relationship with Jesus Christ is going deeper, closer, higher, wider, more and more!

Kind of makes the desires of the flesh less and less… and the Holy Spirit with God’s Word increases more and more…. refreshing our soul, giving light to our spirit and life to our body.

I practically have the audio Bible playing continuously softly in my bedroom 24/7, I love listening to it….

Tell me how you’re doing!!! :love:(y)
Oh no worries I have not been on consisantly either I actually was not online for a long time because my eyes just couldn't deal with the white background but I came back on his orders it was in a sense my first mission my first test of if I would really obey even if the cost is great/

That however is a story for another time but lets just say I learned he rewards those who obey him
His word is something he is teaching me about, I kneeled before him wanting the truth the real thing not what any doctrine or denimination says or what anyone else says or even what I say I wanted the truth and the whole truth from him directly making him keep his promise that he is the way the truth and the light.

I refused anything less I even demanded it from him as he is a keeper of his word. This brought me to him on a journey that we began that has lead all the way here.

I want to get into the word but he doesn't want me to do it the way I normally do I think the method of how I listen or read it has something to do with it.

Like normally I read if I can but mostly listen and I do it when I decide to but honestly I never felt the feeling I first felt when I first began to read his word when I was saved.

It was actually filling me up as if feeding me I literally felt like I was devouring the word as if it was the most satisfying thing ever I was always reading it constantly but eventually that went away and I never got it back

So when I read the word yes I am growing learning studying but without being fed it feels stale not the real thing.
 

Lafftur

Senior Member
Apr 18, 2017
6,886
3,631
113
Oh no worries I have not been on consisantly either I actually was not online for a long time because my eyes just couldn't deal with the white background but I came back on his orders it was in a sense my first mission my first test of if I would really obey even if the cost is great/

That however is a story for another time but lets just say I learned he rewards those who obey him
His word is something he is teaching me about, I kneeled before him wanting the truth the real thing not what any doctrine or denimination says or what anyone else says or even what I say I wanted the truth and the whole truth from him directly making him keep his promise that he is the way the truth and the light.

I refused anything less I even demanded it from him as he is a keeper of his word. This brought me to him on a journey that we began that has lead all the way here.

I want to get into the word but he doesn't want me to do it the way I normally do I think the method of how I listen or read it has something to do with it.

Like normally I read if I can but mostly listen and I do it when I decide to but honestly I never felt the feeling I first felt when I first began to read his word when I was saved.

It was actually filling me up as if feeding me I literally felt like I was devouring the word as if it was the most satisfying thing ever I was always reading it constantly but eventually that went away and I never got it back

So when I read the word yes I am growing learning studying but without being fed it feels stale not the real thing.
Hey sweet Blain, :love:

It’s nice to catch up with you!

I’ve learned the Holy Spirit is ALWAYS present when God’s Word is being read, listened, meditating on it, etc..

With thanksgiving and humility, acknowledge the presence of the Holy Spirit and ask Him direct questions about the Word…

He’ll open the scriptures and answer your questions… this is when you get filled up and are fed and given drink… milk, water and wine… be refreshed and enjoy God everyday!

Much love and prayer for you and your eyes..:love:(y)
 

Blain

The Word Weaver
Aug 28, 2012
19,212
2,547
113
Hey sweet Blain, :love:

It’s nice to catch up with you!

I’ve learned the Holy Spirit is ALWAYS present when God’s Word is being read, listened, meditating on it, etc..

With thanksgiving and humility, acknowledge the presence of the Holy Spirit and ask Him direct questions about the Word…

He’ll open the scriptures and answer your questions… this is when you get filled up and are fed and given drink… milk, water and wine… be refreshed and enjoy God everyday!

Much love and prayer for you and your eyes..:love:(y)
Well the way he has been doing it with me is understanding the difference between reading the word and listening to the word not with your ears.

i have always respected the bible but now it is not the same I don't just get annoyed when people use it so casually as if it's just ink and paper when everyone uses it in all their arguments and even teachings.

I actually unintentionally get offended I don't know how else to explain it but to say that the word of God has such new meaning to me that it is almost as if my spirit just becomes offended seeing us who more than all people should hold it in such regard just throw it around like mud.

And instead of when I lsiten to or read the word try to interpret it I just let him give me the meaning.
Everyone read the wrod butand a lot of people without knowing it are interpreting it with their minds not their spirit.

There is a reason the bible is so divided in theology the so called truth from the holy spirit that divides the word vs if instead learn how to tune into his frequency his presence and his voice is like an old time radio you have to turn the nob just right to get to the channel your looking for and you can get close but there is static until you tune in just right

The spirit speaks to the spirit not the mind that is where thrology and doctrine and all this stuff you see nowadays
He leads us to all truth but the problem is the truth is much more than most think it goes past understanding the written word when you graduate to the living word that is where the real truth of the written word begins to open but trust me anything you can learn in the written word the real thing is much better.

I am physically miserable my health has just been so bad for so long and most days I have very little energy and yet this journey I am on with him fills me with such joy and life I cannot tell you the many things he has done and taught me as it would take many many words but he is not distant in any way to me even when I can't feel him he brought me into a whole new realm with him one where we are so close that he literally moved into my room he comes and goes as he pleases but is still always living there.

You know I find it interesting how Jesus promised that the holy spirit would reside with us as well as in us.

I always overlooked that reside with us thing but now I am starting to wonder
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
Well the way he has been doing it with me is understanding the difference between reading the word and listening to the word not with your ears.

i have always respected the bible but now it is not the same I don't just get annoyed when people use it so casually as if it's just ink and paper when everyone uses it in all their arguments and even teachings.

I actually unintentionally get offended I don't know how else to explain it but to say that the word of God has such new meaning to me that it is almost as if my spirit just becomes offended seeing us who more than all people should hold it in such regard just throw it around like mud.

And instead of when I lsiten to or read the word try to interpret it I just let him give me the meaning.
Everyone read the wrod butand a lot of people without knowing it are interpreting it with their minds not their spirit.

There is a reason the bible is so divided in theology the so called truth from the holy spirit that divides the word vs if instead learn how to tune into his frequency his presence and his voice is like an old time radio you have to turn the nob just right to get to the channel your looking for and you can get close but there is static until you tune in just right

The spirit speaks to the spirit not the mind that is where thrology and doctrine and all this stuff you see nowadays
He leads us to all truth but the problem is the truth is much more than most think it goes past understanding the written word when you graduate to the living word that is where the real truth of the written word begins to open but trust me anything you can learn in the written word the real thing is much better.

I am physically miserable my health has just been so bad for so long and most days I have very little energy and yet this journey I am on with him fills me with such joy and life I cannot tell you the many things he has done and taught me as it would take many many words but he is not distant in any way to me even when I can't feel him he brought me into a whole new realm with him one where we are so close that he literally moved into my room he comes and goes as he pleases but is still always living there.

You know I find it interesting how Jesus promised that the holy spirit would reside with us as well as in us.

I always overlooked that reside with us thing but now I am starting to wonder
This time bro more than any other time 😊.

As your faith gets stronger the firey darts of the enemy will just be bounced. And all afflictions with them, like water of a ducks back into the sea of tranquility we go.

Glad to see you back in the forum's, too my precious friend 😊
 

Lanolin

Well-known member
Dec 15, 2018
23,460
7,188
113
I dont put God in a box, but I do have a suggestions box, and children would put their great ideas, wishes and even prayers in there for the library.

Boxes can be useful.
They are also good for carrying lots of books. Sometimes you need something sturdy and a bag just wont do.
 

Blain

The Word Weaver
Aug 28, 2012
19,212
2,547
113
This time bro more than any other time 😊.

As your faith gets stronger the firey darts of the enemy will just be bounced. And all afflictions with them, like water of a ducks back into the sea of tranquility we go.

Glad to see you back in the forum's, too my precious friend 😊
you are not wrong. I have been in the hospital this whole time my body was dangerously weak and the doctors andnurses were frantic they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me I actually felt like death was gripping my body draining the life out it.

However the doctors and nurses were very confuses why I was just laying there smiling.

My body was suffering but my spirit was alive and growing the peace and serenity with God like water refreshing you I was actually thankful for my suffering because it brought me to a level with him where I was actually smiling near dceath
 

Fundaamental

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2023
3,289
421
83
you are not wrong. I have been in the hospital this whole time my body was dangerously weak and the doctors andnurses were frantic they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me I actually felt like death was gripping my body draining the life out it.

However the doctors and nurses were very confuses why I was just laying there smiling.

My body was suffering but my spirit was alive and growing the peace and serenity with God like water refreshing you I was actually thankful for my suffering because it brought me to a level with him where I was actually smiling near dceath
Glad your back friend 😊
 

Lafftur

Senior Member
Apr 18, 2017
6,886
3,631
113
you are not wrong. I have been in the hospital this whole time my body was dangerously weak and the doctors andnurses were frantic they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me I actually felt like death was gripping my body draining the life out it.

However the doctors and nurses were very confuses why I was just laying there smiling.

My body was suffering but my spirit was alive and growing the peace and serenity with God like water refreshing you I was actually thankful for my suffering because it brought me to a level with him where I was actually smiling near dceath
I’m glad too that you’re still with us… you’re an overcomer!

You love God so much even though you’ve suffered so much and now just simply smile in the midst of pain facing death with no fear… you are absolutely BEAUTIFUL to God!

Sounds like you’re passing through the 7 churches…. you’ve made it through Ephesus (Steadfast unshakable First Love) and Smyrna (Death with joy like Christ endured the cross because of the joy that was set before Him)…

Now you’re entering Pergamos.. you’ll be raised up in Truth, restored in Truth and strengthened in Truth in Pergamos… perhaps the Lord will heal you now…:unsure::love:(y)
 

Blain

The Word Weaver
Aug 28, 2012
19,212
2,547
113
I’m glad too that you’re still with us… you’re an overcomer!

You love God so much even though you’ve suffered so much and now just simply smile in the midst of pain facing death with no fear… you are absolutely BEAUTIFUL to God!

Sounds like you’re passing through the 7 churches…. you’ve made it through Ephesus (Steadfast unshakable First Love) and Smyrna (Death with joy like Christ endured the cross because of the joy that was set before Him)…

Now you’re entering Pergamos.. you’ll be raised up in Truth, restored in Truth and strengthened in Truth in Pergamos… perhaps the Lord will heal you now…:unsure::love:(y)
That is interesting I didn't even consider any of that. I am currently being lead into a new area of work with him.

I have been mourning for Christian chat and for the body of Christ in general I have even wept for it I have something not a lot have very few are even aware of it I have been given so many treasures from this journey that if I could I would pour into every heart here even if only so they can have a taste.

And he has called me intercessor several times I have always believed in what one prayer can do how it can only take one heart and reality will flip on it's head my prayers for people never had any power even though I prayed it always felt like there was not really anything behind it.

But when he does use me to interceded it's on a whole other level I pour my entire being into even to the point where my body is shaking and sweating and I see feathers as if wings moving at such a speed you only see their feathers fall.

Now that he and I are in a tune unlike ever before now that we sing a new song together I think this is what was needed before I walked in that realm of prayer.


But make no mistake I am not going for simply pray and see if it is his will for them be healed or given strength or whatever if I say it then that is it no if and or but and my prayers are going to be the kind that pours into people they are going to feel that life that is spoken of in the scriptures the water is going to fiull them to brim and that small tatse I want people to have that is what I want more than anything.

I said before he is calling us to a whole new level realm and position with him where he is reality and that reality goes against everything we know and understand it is the literall unknown what we call the bible what we consider God and Jesus the holy spirit what we call the kingdom heaven what we call faith we teach it we believe it in we read it but to exist in it to reside in it to live it out that is another story.

People are confused when I say how eveything he said we could do in him is just words to many. people say they believe but when I say to them how he said how we could command a mountain or how everything Jesus did was childsplay compared to what we are able to do in him now that the death and resurrection has happened.



i don't know how we can say we believe anything is possible with God and yet even though we are told so many times what we really are in him what we are called to do and be the authority in Christ we have but we can't even multiply fish and bread we can't even reach each others hearts a lot of the time.


And this is the kingdom? This is what being a Christian is? this is what faith can do? No I am going to prove otherwise.