Three Questions for Calvinists
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If we say, God created Thorns on a Rose for its protection, then it takes away from the character of the Rose.
If we say, God created Thorns on a Rose for its character, then it takes away the purpose for protection.
What's still interesting here, with Thorns as possible Protection or Character, insects still devour the Rose unharmed.
I think the key here is what was God's intended use for a Rose?
He wasn't creating a Rose for women on Valentine's Day
So, why did God create the Rose?
Tree's provide shelter, homes, food.
Grass provide food and medicinal purposes.
Flowers feed insects and herbivores.
Is this why God made the Rose?
If so, why add Thorns to make the meal more challenging?
Clearly, the Thorns seem more to function for Protection, compared to Character.
Or, is God showing, how He loves Contrasting Concepts?
Beauty + Thorns
Beauty + Danger
Beauty + Protection
Beauty + Character
If we say, God created Thorns on a Rose for its character, then it takes away the purpose for protection.
What's still interesting here, with Thorns as possible Protection or Character, insects still devour the Rose unharmed.
I think the key here is what was God's intended use for a Rose?
He wasn't creating a Rose for women on Valentine's Day
So, why did God create the Rose?
Tree's provide shelter, homes, food.
Grass provide food and medicinal purposes.
Flowers feed insects and herbivores.
Is this why God made the Rose?
If so, why add Thorns to make the meal more challenging?
Clearly, the Thorns seem more to function for Protection, compared to Character.
Or, is God showing, how He loves Contrasting Concepts?
Beauty + Thorns
Beauty + Danger
Beauty + Protection
Beauty + Character
Beckie said:
Are the thorns on a rose God's creation? Or is that the character of the rose?
Got the time to be snarky but still did not answer the question. Got it
Are the thorns on a rose God's creation? Or is that the character of the rose?
Got the time to be snarky but still did not answer the question. Got it
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Thinking thorns came about as part of the curse
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
Gen 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
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Calvininsts say that God's greatest desire is his own glory. But the Bible says the Jesus went to the cross "for the JOY set before Him". It says in another place that it is "His good pleasure to give you the Kingdom". God is a giver, not a taker. Calvinists actually portray a false god which is a selfish narcissist. Ironically, the God of the Bible does and will receive glory because He is worthy. A narcissist is never worthy of glory.
"And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man ....." Romans 1:23
"And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man ....." Romans 1:23
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Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
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God does create and give for His own pleasure which is He is entitled to do, He is God after all.
The god of Calvinism is does have some narcissistic traits, their god is a control freak, a puppet master.
I think if we understand Augustine and Calvin we will understand the god they created, the transference is remarkable.
The god of Calvinism is does have some narcissistic traits, their god is a control freak, a puppet master.
I think if we understand Augustine and Calvin we will understand the god they created, the transference is remarkable.
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Yeah, that's what I said....
...and what does He take pleasure in?
Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. -Luke 12:32
....and what does that Kingdom consist of?
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. -Romans 14:17
...and what does He take pleasure in?
Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom. -Luke 12:32
....and what does that Kingdom consist of?
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. -Romans 14:17
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Yikes 😬
I hope you realize, if you’re wrong it means (by your own admission) you’re serving a false god and you just called the true God a selfish narcissist.
To all: It’s one thing to disagree with the doctrine of election out of ignorance, but it’s an entirely different thing to hate it (and the God who ordained it).
Be sure.
I hope you realize, if you’re wrong it means (by your own admission) you’re serving a false god and you just called the true God a selfish narcissist.
To all: It’s one thing to disagree with the doctrine of election out of ignorance, but it’s an entirely different thing to hate it (and the God who ordained it).
Be sure.
Considering, this Doctrine comes out of a manuscript, not just deemed Un-Worthy of being in the Canon [Septuagint], because it is factually a simple bunch of human Opinions jotted down, means, I am not too concerned about the "god," these Opinions, are trying to pretend to be.
Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?
The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.
What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.
What is Esoteric Writings?
a personal interpretation!
Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?
The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with other Jewish texts that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.
What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.
What is Esoteric Writings?
a personal interpretation!
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