Is personal prophecy scriptural?

From:
Church Fathers

Against Heresies: Book V
“For now,” he says, “we know in part, and we prophesy in part, but then face to face.”44924492 1 Cor. xiii. 9, 12. And this it is which has been said also by Peter: “Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom now also, not seeing, ye believe; and believing, ye shall rejoice with joy unspeakable.”44934493 1 Pet. i. 8. For our face shall see the face of the Lord 44944494 Grabe, Massuet, and Stieren prefer to read, “the face of the living God;” while Harvey adopts the above, reading merely “Domini,” and not “Dei vivi.” and shall rejoice with joy unspeakable,—that is to say, when it shall behold its own Delight.

When we SEE Jesus Face to Face, is the Perfect to Come!

Do you have any other ideas?

Agreed.
There are holes in this theory. But it is the best suggestion I have.
Do you have any other ideas?

Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to the apostles with a mission to reveal all truth.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The apostles wrote that down by inspiration.

Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

When we read it, we can understand the same message the apostles received.

Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Scripture makes complete. Thus, Scripture must itself complete to accomplish this. I.e. “all truth” Jesus promised has been given in the scripture.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The faith has been once for all time delivered. Does it need to be revealed again?

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Understanding this completed miraculous, revelatory work of the Holy Spirit; read:

1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.1 Corinthians 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

The Spirit said prophecies, tongues and revealed knowledge will cease. The obvious question is when?

v10 when the perfect comes. what is the perfect here? The parts are revelations, so the perfect (complete) is composed of those parts.

The childhood described v11, seeing dimly v. 12 are both illustrations of the beginning of the Spirits work in revealing the Gospel piece by piece, letter by letter to the apostles. But when that completed revelation is given, then there is no more need for ongoing revelations.

Like a puzzle, once you place the last piece do you go back to the box look for more? No. It is completed.

The perfect, in context, is made up of the identified parts. This cannot be a reference to Christ, because when Christ returns there will be miracles anew (resurrection, world on fire, etc).

Thus, modern claims of miracles & revelations & prophecies find themselves unsupported by the Word of the Spirit.

I never made any such implication. You continually erroneously assume and falsely accuse.

Not only that, you completely ignore what is said to stay the course of your repetitive inaccurate rambles.

Since you consider expressing my opinion as being very rude, what does that make you?

I spell it . H - Y - P - O - C - R - I - T - E.

I don't really see how it could possibly be the Bible. The Bible wasn't completed until Paul was long gone so how could he "know" and see "face to face" with it when it didn't exist till he was dead? I don't claim to know the answer, but I've never been at peace with the Bible theory.

If the Bible was what is “perfect” then when why does it’s translations span across a word for word to thought for thought. Why in the KJV was Holy Spirit incorrectly translated as “It”
Why so much divisive talking and disagreement on scripture? Why so many Church splits over doctrine?
Nah… I’m pretty sure Perfect was referring to Christ Himself when we meet him face to face.

Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to the apostles with a mission to reveal all truth.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The apostles wrote that down by inspiration.

Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

When we read it, we can understand the same message the apostles received.

Ephesians 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Scripture makes complete. Thus, Scripture must itself complete to accomplish this. I.e. “all truth” Jesus promised has been given in the scripture.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The faith has been once for all time delivered. Does it need to be revealed again?

Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Understanding this completed miraculous, revelatory work of the Holy Spirit; read:

1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.1 Corinthians 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.1 Corinthians 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

The Spirit said prophecies, tongues and revealed knowledge will cease. The obvious question is when?

v10 when the perfect comes. what is the perfect here? The parts are revelations, so the perfect (complete) is composed of those parts.

The childhood described v11, seeing dimly v. 12 are both illustrations of the beginning of the Spirits work in revealing the Gospel piece by piece, letter by letter to the apostles. But when that completed revelation is given, then there is no more need for ongoing revelations.

Like a puzzle, once you place the last piece do you go back to the box look for more? No. It is completed.

The perfect, in context, is made up of the identified parts. This cannot be a reference to Christ, because when Christ returns there will be miracles anew (resurrection, world on fire, etc).

Thus, modern claims of miracles & revelations & prophecies find themselves unsupported by the Word of the Spirit.

If the parts are miraculous revelations, what would the perfect/complete be?
The parts are what compose the whole In the context.

And this is the specified work of the Holy Spirit that Jesus promised John 16:13, the revelation of all truth.

Peter said all things for life and godliness were given 2Pet1:3

To say the. I le wasn’t complted until Paul was long gone, is an assumption.

Manuscript evidence we have dates back to the early second century of complete lists of the NT books we have now. Thus, these completed works must have been in circulation prior to that time.

And how can Scripture make a man of God complete if Scripture is lacking what is needed? 2Tim3:16-17

Did Jesus’ promise of all truth to the apostles fail? Jn16:13

Was Jude wrong when he wrote by inspiration that the faith was once for all time delivered Jude 3?

Paul, was dead by 67 AD, the parchment Dating method for I-II-III John are not until when the river plant began sewing and gluing around 92 AD and Revelation, 96 AD.

Paul was dead for 25 years before I-II-III John was ever written. And Revelation, is the LAST of the Prophecies, Paul, completely MISSED that!

If Revelation is not concerning the destruction of Jerusalem in the first century, what first century event was being considered that the original readers needed comforting for?

John, tells us, this is for the Future.
70 AD happened 25 years ago, by this point.

And No Church Father connects Revelation to 70 AD anywhere!

Yet the NT says when Jesus comes miracles will start (resurrection, etc).

Paul, did not know, that Jesus, put John in charge, of Paul's 7 Churches, because, they were completely all corrupt by 96 AD, as we read in Revelation Chapters 1 and 2.

It first has application to those it was written to. What is the relevance to them? And if it is future, why would they need comforting, and why write it to them?

It has nothing to do with Israel of that day.
the 7 Churches were in Asia, not Israel.
that's where the last Apostle ends up at, Asia, not Israel.

Revelation is 100% Future. Even the Churches were Future when John first wrote about them. Then he was released and oversaw them. in Asia!

The "perfect" has definitely come. We know this because the physical manifestations of the Holy Spirit has ceased. This is not a difficult notion to understand.

I don't really see how it could possibly be the Bible. The Bible wasn't completed until Paul was long gone so how could he "know" and see "face to face" with it when it didn't exist till he was dead? I don't claim to know the answer, but I've never been at peace with the Bible theory.

What do...come to pass shortly...in 1:1 and...is at hand...in 1:3 refer to?