Why does God love us?
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God chose Jacob and his descendants (Israel), and rejected Esau and his descendants (Edomites), who were enemies of Israel and God. This has been explained to you, probably not as many times as you inanely ask the same question over and over and over again ad nauseum, but surely often enough that it need not be repeated to one whose ears and mind are closed to the truth of the matter.
The key is the timing of this Hate for Esau. It refers to how he will Choose his life when he is in place to continue his Grandfather Abraham's Lineage which puts him in direct contact to God? But instead of that mattering to Esau, it did to Jacob. And God wants those WHO want Him! Esau Denied God by throwing away his Lineage and Heritage. And before Esau was born, God knew this about him.
Scripture says God Loved Jacob, but hated Esau, so thats the truth. If you believe differently, you believe a lie. If you believe God loves the workers of iniquity, you believe a lie Ps 5:5 If you believe that God Loves all mankind you believe a lie, and God intends for you to believe it, so see you at the Judgment 2 Thess 2:10-12
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Gods word says it Rom 9:13
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
And I dont believe Esau or others God hates will He have Mercy upon, because they, His Love and Mercy go hand in hand in His Salvation Eph 2:4-5
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
If you had paid attention to the context in Romans 9 you would see that Rom 9:13-16
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
And I dont believe Esau or others God hates will He have Mercy upon, because they, His Love and Mercy go hand in hand in His Salvation Eph 2:4-5
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved)
If you had paid attention to the context in Romans 9 you would see that Rom 9:13-16
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
You have quoted it properly. I just believe you understand it poorly. Everything in the bible isn't to be taken at face value. It requires, most often, both study and revelation.
I admire your zeal in defending your beliefs. I just think a little more knowledge might inform your zeal more fully.
I admire your zeal in defending your beliefs. I just think a little more knowledge might inform your zeal more fully.
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