Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

So you see, only a remnant were chosen, the election, the rest were blinded. The rest obviously were not of the election, duh

The elect among them did, but the others were hardened, as it is written:
“God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that could not see
and ears that could not hear,
to this very day.

If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” 20 Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but tremble. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

22 Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!


All Israel Will Be Saved
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written:

“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”



I'm not going to add a rude "duh" here but please include the entire context. Jews are blinded, for a time, until the Gentiles come in.

Again, the nation is distinct from the chosen Rom 11:7
7 What then? Israel[the nation] hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election[chosen] hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

Sorry Faith is of Grace, not of ourselves.

New Birth comes first Jn 3:3-8

What if someone used scripture...

1 Corinthians 12:3...and that no man can say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

That would contradict the Gospel which offers salvation to all freely: And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Rev 22:17).

🤔

What if someone used scripture...

1 Corinthians 12:3...and that no man can say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

And this is where I lose the path a little with TULIP believers. I totally believe a person is saved under the unction of the Holy Spirit.

And this is where I lose the path a little with TULIP believers. I totally believe a person is saved under the unction of the Holy Spirit.

What if someone used scripture...

1 Corinthians 12:3...and that no man can say that Jesus is Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

This Chapter begins about the difference between having the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and not. So yes, Once you are Saved and filled with the Holy Spirit you will have this complete understanding. But this has nothing to do with the process of becoming Saved. This is about after you are Saved.

So not sure what you are trying to imply here other than counting the chickens before they hatch from their eggs theory...

No man would be willing apart from the work of the Holy Spirit...

There is little doubt that God saves us in conjunction with us. I like what one guy said when he was asked how did he know he was saved. Easy, he says, I was there when it happened.

Ah, the old Gospel song says it too "I was there when it happened and I guess I oughta know"!!

So we agree, at least on this point.

God brings us to repentance. Glad you agree

On this subject I have found the parable in Luke 15 invaluable. It is a parable that has 3 parts, not 3 separate parables, and was written this way for our instruction.
The first parable is of the lost sheep. It shows the part in redemption of the good Shepherd and reveals Jesus' as our propitiation.
The second part is the lost coin. I believe this represents the work of the Holy Spirit. As the house is lit and cleansed, so too are we enlightened and cleansed.
It is only after both these aspects of salvation are concluded that we come to the prodigal. In him we all see some aspect of ourselves and how God received us in our humbled estate.
The problem is, the first 2 steps are imperceptible to us as the work of God, while the third aspect is very experiential. We all can recall the glorious moment of slobbering before our Father and feeling the burden of our sins fall away in His presence. But we aren't aware of the circumcision of heart that leads us to come to ourselves in the first place, that made returning a viable choice in the first place.
I know everyone won't agree with this. I merely share it for your prayerful consideration.