Christians Are Not Sinners

Your definition of sinner differs from the Biblical definition of sinner. If you insist upon creating you own dictionary, then it will be a challenge to continue communicating with you.

A sinner is one who lives in a state of rebellion against the lordship of Christ. A sinner is one who refuses to repent and admit he is wrong.

We are still sinners. If we weren't, we would no longer sin.


We are declared righteous.


Agreed. Salvation for Christians is permanent.


Yes. So what do you do about the sins you still commit?


Agreed.


Yes, those verses are wonderful truths.


Amen!

But there is a difference between "declared" and "made." If we were made righteous, we would no longer sin. Anyone honest with themselves knows they still sin. We are declared righteous.

I see the additional blessing of finding and sharing that article as one that provides a teaching moment for personal revelation and introspection.

The Bible says we are declared righteous in Christ.


You don't see the conflict in what you are saying. You say "Christians are not sinners," but you acknowledge that we still sin. That's a contradiction.

But there is a difference between "declared" and "made." If we were made righteous, we would no longer sin. Anyone honest with themselves knows they still sin. We are declared righteous.

it is not our righteousness....it is the righteousness of Christ who died on our behalf.

I appreciate your op (original post) very much. It reminds us to not take what Jesus has done for us lightly. When one comes under the blood, a great change occurs. One should never minimize or deny this change that Jesus' blood hath wrought. One should never consider him or herself as still being a sinner. Many see this point but continue to blow smoke anyway. Welcome to CC.

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I love this article because it uses scripture to make a long overdue point.
Rejoice! We are indeed free in Christ.😊🕊️

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There are far too many differences between sinners and children of God for them to be one and the same.
If you are a born-again child of God, you are not a sinner. You will slip, make mistakes, fall short and sin. But that is neither your identity nor your nature. You are simply in an imperfect vessel (the human body / the flesh) which gives in to temptation (Galatians 5:17). You are a spirit with a soul living inside a body and having the human experience, including the human disadvantages (1 Thessalonians 5:23). Yet you need to over stand you are very different from a sinner for the reasons mentioned herein and then some. And for these reasons, new believers often look and act like unbelievers. While salvation occurs in an instant, the process of becoming more and more like Christ (sanctification) takes both time and growth. The Bible clearly speaks for itself on all of this without the need for interpretation.
It is most important that you remember Christ (Yeshua) did not come to help you stop sinning. He came because you could not stop. No human being is free from sin but children of God do not practice a life and nature of that sin. And when we fall, we restore each other, we repent and we realize that we have been forgiven.

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Your definition of sinner differs from the Biblical definition of sinner. If you insist upon creating you own dictionary, then it will be a challenge to continue communicating with you.

A sinner is one who lives in a state of rebellion against the lordship of Christ. A sinner is one who refuses to repent and admit he is wrong.

If nothing else this discussion affords the example of differences. Those who read the scriptures, to those who understand what God is saying. Superficial vs. deep.

I cannot give you understanding, although I would be glad to do so

every person who has accepted Christ is righteous before God. this seems to be what you do not grasp the truth of

it is not our righteousness....it is the righteousness of Christ who died on our behalf.

etc etc etc

again, try Romans. what is the grace of God?

1. yes the Bible says we are declared righteous. so, who yah gonna believe? your faulty conscience or God Almighty

2. it is like I already said to you, you are not comprehending the terms. Oyster....post 100...noted the difference again....a sinner is someone who is not forgiven. there is no comparison to someone who lives as that sinner and someone who has accepted Christ and obtained forgiveness

really, you just keep repeating yourself no matter how many times different folks try to explain to you.

It's telling how you think you understand the scriptures, while those who disagree with you only have a superficial understanding.

Luke 18:
13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Christians are saved sinners.

...who become justified by the blood of Christ and made new creatures in Him.

Maybe our argument boils down to semantics.
You think a sinner is someone who is unsaved.
I think a sinner is someone who sins.

Shared with permission. And Fair Use. 😊


I love this article because it uses scripture to make a long overdue point.
Rejoice! We are indeed free in Christ.😊🕊️

[Article]
There are far too many differences between sinners and children of God for them to be one and the same.
If you are a born-again child of God, you are not a sinner. You will slip, make mistakes, fall short and sin. But that is neither your identity nor your nature. You are simply in an imperfect vessel (the human body / the flesh) which gives in to temptation (Galatians 5:17). You are a spirit with a soul living inside a body and having the human experience, including the human disadvantages (1 Thessalonians 5:23). Yet you need to over stand you are very different from a sinner for the reasons mentioned herein and then some. And for these reasons, new believers often look and act like unbelievers. While salvation occurs in an instant, the process of becoming more and more like Christ (sanctification) takes both time and growth. The Bible clearly speaks for itself on all of this without the need for interpretation.
It is most important that you remember Christ (Yeshua) did not come to help you stop sinning. He came because you could not stop. No human being is free from sin but children of God do not practice a life and nature of that sin. And when we fall, we restore each other, we repent and we realize that we have been forgiven.

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Yes. As long as you do agree that a great change occurs when we are born again.