Should you say, 'Homosexuality is a Sin.'

Imagine there is a man who lived an LBGT lifestyle, then repents, but still finds he could be attracted to other men. He just doesn't yield to it. He doesn't look with lust or give other parts of his body over to that sin.

So are you saying he is sinning because he can be attracted to other men (homosexuality?)

Imagine there is a man who lived an LBGT lifestyle, then repents, but still finds he could be attracted to other men. He just doesn't yield to it. He doesn't look with lust or give other parts of his body over to that sin.

So are you saying he is sinning because he can be attracted to other men (homosexuality?)

Is what the Bible calls Sodomy a temptation that's common?
Do any of you guys see a male model on the package of underwear when shopping and lust after that?

everyone has a thorn in their side that either enables their temptation or limitations. crucifying the flesh is a daily practice.

does the bible say all have a throne in the flesh, or does it say the lord placed one on Paul because of the Revelation given to him by Jesus?

anyone who lusts after a PK of draws has a serious issue.

How is your answer 'yes' to my question. There are probably some women who walk by, and you just aren't going to look at them with lust. If you have a grandmother whose aged, or someone else's grandmother. There are women you just aren't going to be attracted to.

But lets say a woman with supermodel good looks walks by in a bikini. She is attractive to you. Does that mean you looked at her with lust?

If any man walks by, I am not going to be attracted to him. If he's young, if he's muscular. They don't appeal to me. I suspect that is the case with most men. But some men might find them attractive, but they can choose not to look with lust.

The men who find other men attractive are 'homosexual' according to how the term is used. Do you think their propensity to be attractive is looking with lust.

If a pretty girl walks by, did you automatically lust after her, whether you wanted to or not?

What if the woman is not only pretty, but someone who could appeal to your desires, from a physical perspective? If she walks in the room, do you have no choice.... you just lusted? Or can you choose not to look with lust?

I Corinthians 10 says that with every temptation there is a way of escape, 'that ye may be able to bear it.' Jesus said that He that commits sin is the servant of sin. Paul says do not yield your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin. Peter quotes the Old Testament, "Be ye holy, for I am holy."

Some Christians believe that as sin reigned unto death, grace reigns through righteousness. (Romans 5:21.

It seems like you have this attitude that every Christian is just going to sin and it doesn't matter that much because they can be forgiven. Is that an accurate understanding?

I am a senior, and retired (involuntarily when covid struck) fairly immediately after turning 65.
I had also just received a cancer diagnosis (forthcoming treatments and surgery etc being a
reason for laying me off after 38 years with the company), and though I am at present cancer-
free, have had a 3rd surgery just recently booked for later this month, and as recently as a month
ago was hospitalized a few days due to complications. I realize covid has wreaked much havoc
and tragedy in many people's lives, but for me the timing and how everything has worked out
has been nothing short of miraculous, for which I give God all the credit, including shielding
my heart and mind from worry. Not getting out as much due to covid has definitely been an
impediment, and I do feel the results of that for sure, as it becomes more difficult to motivate myself.
I understand that some people experience this as a result of aging as well, so there is likely overlap.

I am not much of one given to flowery speech in prose, though I must say I have enjoyed
witnessing you opening up and sharing more here... like a flower blossoming in the sun!

I am sorry to hear you are disabled, and pray God graces you and yours strength to unfalteringly endure with peace of mind.

I'll put you on my prayer list.

So very sorry to hear about the cancer but happy to hear your now in remission..

I'm sorry to read you suffered that experience.

Did she have a job still after you regained consciousness?

Doc was probably just happy that I didn't bring a suit. I've noticed that pretty blonde gals get out of traffic tickets and don't get fired as easily as others if they know how to cry and to bat their eyelashes at the right times.

I'd known about Ketamine as a ”party drug'' for years. I think I'll always be surprised at learning the extent to which people will go to harm themselves.
Resorting to cat tranquilizer though seems to be a subconscious intention to end their life.
How do you party while tranquilized?🥴

Good question. With so many drugs on the street and through the big Rx market, I have no idea why they'd pick the high risk cat tranq over their other drugs. Maybe they think they have 9 lives too?
I don't know anything about the modern dope that's common now. What I read about tranquilizers bus that they are shared with victims, it will knock them out so they can be taken advantage of.

It's curious how in over 2000 years since Jesus to date our world is growing worse and people more and more depraved.

If you do not lust over a passing person then you have not lusted.. so therefore you have not sinned.. This is very simple, but your reply seems to indicate that you are resisting the simplicity of my answer..

I've heard preachers preach on the sin of homosexuality. Some might even say homosexuals are going to Hell, gays are going to Hell, lesbians are going to Hell, etc.

When I grew up, the way 'homosexual', 'gay', etc. was used was to refer to people who did 'gay stuff'-- meaning sexual acts. So I thought.

It turns out based on the original meaning of the word and the way it is used in academia, a homosexual is someone attracted to the same sex. Now suppose you are a young person and you've never done any 'gay stuff', but you found yourself attracted to the same sex. Then you go to church, and you hear someone preach that if you have same-sex attraction, you are a sinner and you are going to Hell.

The sins that homosexuals commit that are related to homosexuality are things like actually performing same-sex sexual acts, and looking with lust. Having attraction for the same sex is a bad thing to have to deal with. But can't someone who struggles with this still be a Christian and just resist temptation?

Many of us men are attracted to beautiful women. Especially when we are/were young, a beautiful scantily clad woman might be a bit of an eye magnet for the flesh, but you can choose to avert your eyes and discipline your mind and not sin. There are ads on magazines and various other type of media. There is a difference between what we find attractive and the acts we commit. If a woman is attractive to a man, that doesn't mean he has committed fornication or adultery with her or that he has looked at her with lust.

And if a man struggles with same-sex attraction, that doesn't mean he constantly goes around sinning. At least with the Gen-Y and Gen-Z generations, and probably most of X now, and in academia, and certainly with LGBTI folks, in the US, 'gay', 'homosexual', and 'lesbian' refer to 'orientation'-- not what they do with their sex lives. Some Fundamentalists preachers who say 'Homosexuals are going to Hell' do no realize that what they are saying from the perspective of the listener is if you find yourself attracted to the same sex, even if you don't act on it, you are going to Hell. It sounds rather hopeless.

We do need to combat the ideas associated with 'orientation' that these types of inclinations or lusts are permanent problems. LBGT folks think of their sexual inclinations and propensities to be attracted as a big part of their identity. But the Bible tells Christians, to "reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:11.)

Christian men who are attracted to women do not introduce themselves as "I am a Christian who has the propensity to fornicate with women", and so Christian men who struggle with same-sex attraction should not say, "I am a gay Christian." We should reckon ourselves dead to sin, and alive to God, and "make no provision for the flesh to fulfill the lusts thereof."

Some people with same-sex attraction who become Christians may have to constantly struggle against it and overcome it for years, like some men have to tame their eyes. Others may be delivered from the temptation and not worry about it. Marriage between a man and a woman is a Biblical remedy for decreasing the propensity to be tempted by sexual lust.

If homosexuality is the ability to be attracted to the same sex, then homosexuality is not a sin. If one yields to it and looks with lust or yields the members of one's body to sin in some other way, then that's sin. That's my point.

Saying 'homosexuality is a sin' can confuse people who have that problem and convey the wrong message.

You talking as though there was no cross, no soul cleansing power in Christ's blood, no new heart to be received, no new birth, no new man or woman. No indwelling power of the Holy Spirit. No inner life of Christ.

If homosexuality is the ability to be attracted to the same sex, then homosexuality is not a sin. If one yields to it and looks with lust or yields the members of one's body to sin in some other way, then that's sin. That's my point.

Saying 'homosexuality is a sin' can confuse people who have that problem and convey the wrong message.

If homosexuality is the ability to be attracted to the same sex, then homosexuality is not a sin. If one yields to it and looks with lust or yields the members of one's body to sin in some other way, then that's sin. That's my point.

Saying 'homosexuality is a sin' can confuse people who have that problem and convey the wrong message.

I've heard preachers preach on the sin of homosexuality. Some might even say homosexuals are going to Hell, gays are going to Hell, lesbians are going to Hell, etc.

When I grew up, the way 'homosexual', 'gay', etc. was used was to refer to people who did 'gay stuff'-- meaning sexual acts. So I thought.

It turns out based on the original meaning of the word and the way it is used in academia, a homosexual is someone attracted to the same sex. Now suppose you are a young person and you've never done any 'gay stuff', but you found yourself attracted to the same sex. Then you go to church, and you hear someone preach that if you have same-sex attraction, you are a sinner and you are going to Hell.

The sins that homosexuals commit that are related to homosexuality are things like actually performing same-sex sexual acts, and looking with lust. Having attraction for the same sex is a bad thing to have to deal with. But can't someone who struggles with this still be a Christian and just resist temptation?

Many of us men are attracted to beautiful women. Especially when we are/were young, a beautiful scantily clad woman might be a bit of an eye magnet for the flesh, but you can choose to avert your eyes and discipline your mind and not sin. There are ads on magazines and various other type of media. There is a difference between what we find attractive and the acts we commit. If a woman is attractive to a man, that doesn't mean he has committed fornication or adultery with her or that he has looked at her with lust.

And if a man struggles with same-sex attraction, that doesn't mean he constantly goes around sinning. At least with the Gen-Y and Gen-Z generations, and probably most of X now, and in academia, and certainly with LGBTI folks, in the US, 'gay', 'homosexual', and 'lesbian' refer to 'orientation'-- not what they do with their sex lives. Some Fundamentalists preachers who say 'Homosexuals are going to Hell' do no realize that what they are saying from the perspective of the listener is if you find yourself attracted to the same sex, even if you don't act on it, you are going to Hell. It sounds rather hopeless.

We do need to combat the ideas associated with 'orientation' that these types of inclinations or lusts are permanent problems. LBGT folks think of their sexual inclinations and propensities to be attracted as a big part of their identity. But the Bible tells Christians, to "reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:11.)

Christian men who are attracted to women do not introduce themselves as "I am a Christian who has the propensity to fornicate with women", and so Christian men who struggle with same-sex attraction should not say, "I am a gay Christian." We should reckon ourselves dead to sin, and alive to God, and "make no provision for the flesh to fulfill the lusts thereof."

Some people with same-sex attraction who become Christians may have to constantly struggle against it and overcome it for years, like some men have to tame their eyes. Others may be delivered from the temptation and not worry about it. Marriage between a man and a woman is a Biblical remedy for decreasing the propensity to be tempted by sexual lust.

Well yes.. But a homosexual cannot go through their life never thinking about ( lusting) about sex with other men... So they are going to sin.. So they need to acknowledge that as sin, believe Jesus and trust in the atonement of the LORD Jesus..

People advocating for it to no longer be considered sin are actually damning to the eternal lake of fire those who are guilty of this sin.. Because a person who believes they have not sinned will never accept the gift of forgiveness for it... Because they have been convinced it is not sin, thus not needing to be Atoned for..