The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.

Neither am I, every Christian should look for Christ, not Antichrist, but that doesn't mean the Antichrist is a fictional boogeyman, or we could just ignore all the warnings and prophecies about him and render him as utterly irrelevant by burying our heads in a fantasy of a "pre-trib" bailout. You know, this is just as Hitch said, that is just another futile effort to cheat death. God himself became flesh and died an earthly death in the most painful way, what makes you think you can get an easy way out? Just because those "experts" said so? No servant is greater than his master.

I'm not looking for the antichrist. I will never see the antichrist. I will not be on earth when the antichrist is revealed. That would be your problem.

Sounding of trumpets, rally of the "elect", judgement of souls and repentance of sins are all typical costums of the fall feasts. Jesus fulfilled the Passover, Unleavened Bread, and First Fruit in his death, burial and resurrection in His first coming, the Church fulfilled the Pentecost, and the rest three feasts are gonna be fulfilled in His second coming. If you persist to ignore and deny this prophetic picture then that's your choice, I have nothing further to say.

None of this concerns me. I fully understand and embrace the pretrib rapture. As far as I'm concerned it is boilerplate Biblical doctrine.

You are under the delusion that a tiny group of unfortunate end time Christians are singled out for unjust punishment and have to suffer through God's wrath. They don't.

On the contrary Christians are promised they will be delivered FROM IT.....1 Thes 1:10.

For pity sake man you missed the whole point. The point is that these feasts are fulfilled during the 70th week yet future!

Absolutely correct. The latter moed'im are fulfilled during the 70th week of Daniel and the Millennium.

These post-tribbers have no idea of what their talking about. Free Grace had no idea that Jesus was actually resurrected on the very day of the feast of first fruits. And that He almost immediately ascended to heaven. And then returned. Now that is pathetic ignorance. Truly pathetic.

And I made it clear that only the three fall feasts are left in the future, the three spring feasts were already fulfilled by Jesus - in the middle of the 70th week.

Pretty simply , The Lord Returns for His Church on The Last Day and The Last Trumpet. If one is taken and another left I assume you are using Matthew 24 as a proof text for 2 comings of Christ. More specifically according pretribulationalism for the church and later with the church. Problem is Absolutely it is pretty clear that Matthew 24 is the same event as the first resurrection described at the coming of the Lord and the catching up of the saints as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16.17. God has not appointed us to wrath but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ , I myself was not dogmatic about my endtime beliefs until I was taught from scripture. In the seventies during the outpouring. of the Spirit worldwide during the Jesus people days pretribulationist books appeared in mass. Usually dramitized , Calvary Chapel took up this view . The Blood of Cross is essential , be ready for the Lords return is essential , end time views as to the nature of the Lords return is not essential . I pursued God and when it was my time to firm up what I believed about The Lords return , I found the overwhelming literally overwhelming message of scripture was post tribulationist view that catching up of the saints was at The Second Coming of Christ. The seven year gap , between the rapture and the Lords return turned out to be simply theological speculation. Scripture is not dispensationalism is the key to getting the timing down. Pretribulationists assert that there will be a seven year Great Tribulation where bowls of wrath are poured up the earth and the scripture says that we are not appointed to wrath. I assume I won’t be . I am not looking for a rapture prior to the Second Coming of Christ. Other wise the Blessed Hope would be the rapture , instead of the return of Jesus the second coming of Christ , not the third. I don’t know how it all works because frankly I am convinced that the church is in the world when living believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the air, but not preceding those who sleep the dead in Christ rise first. Got plenty of scriptures to support this view . Matthew 24 is not a proof text of 2 comings of Jesus or shouldn’t be anyway.

Present your thesis of how the latter feasts of Moses relate to the Tribulation/70th week/DOTL.

If indeed you are able. Which I very much doubt.

No saint your very off here. Hear cv5 out I'm sure you will see that he is correct.

Disagree that ANYTHING in His Olivet Discourse speaks to the Subject of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"

(it simply was not the Subject that Jesus was covering there, but rather, His Second Coming to the earth FOR the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom and the specific, LIMITED time-period that immediately precedes LEADS UP TO *that*... [except for about 12 or so verses in Lk21:12-24a,b which speak of the 70ad events])

Passover He is the Passove Lamb
unlevened Bread He is the bread of life/ comumion
Firstfruits that again is our Lord.
Pentecost Acts 2
trumpets He is our rest.
Day of Atonement .The day the veil rent.
Tabernacles He is the cornerstone

Trumpet sounds the alarm to wake up those who's spiritually asleep, how is that our rest? And wasn't the veil torn at the very moment Christ yielded his spirit on the cross, which was still on Passover? I appreciate your "thesis", but you have to pin them on specific events on specific times. The first four feasts were not symbolic. They all happened on the exact dates of these feasts.

Here is a vivid depiction of the rapture.
( that you say you disagree with)
Mat 24:
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Pretrib rapture. Big time

You skipped it.
Omitted it.
Here are the same verses you skipped;

Now let's look at the other coming of Matthew 24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
We see vividly pictired;
The prejudgemnt setting
Noah entering the ark( the vessel taking him miles into the sky) where he would dwell in the heavens FOR THE DURATION OF The JUDGEMEMT/TRIB/WRATH.
Then wecsee the catching away PREJUDGEMENT, of one believer raptured, one staying. Vividly pictured.
Then we see the pretrib command;
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Very plain and vivid depictions of 2 SEPARATE AND TOTALLY DIFFERENT "comings".

For your information, The Day of the Lord has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Church. Because the Church won't even be around to experience it. As has just been illustrated to you in the last couple of posts.

TDOTL is for the earth dwellers......Israel and the gentiles. Those who missed out on the age of grace aka the Church age.

For your information, The Day of the Lord has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Church. Because the Church won't even be around to experience it. As has just been illustrated to you in the last couple of posts.

TDOTL is for the earth dwellers......Israel and the gentiles. Those who missed out on the age of grace aka the Church age.