The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.
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What just said CV5 is you don’t have to jump around to fit a lot of your theology into a lot of different books. THE DAY OF THE LORD , THE COMING OF THE DAY OF GOD, GOD IS COMING BACK ! I hope to be ready. But at least I know when I rise from the dead . When He comes back . On that day. The same day as the rapture. Lol
For your information, The Day of the Lord has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Church. Because the Church won't even be around to experience it. As has just been illustrated to you in the last couple of posts.
TDOTL is for the earth dwellers......Israel and the gentiles. Those who missed out on the age of grace aka the Church age.
TDOTL is for the earth dwellers......Israel and the gentiles. Those who missed out on the age of grace aka the Church age.
Paul said that believers are:
“The children of God” (Rom. 8:16).
“The household of God” (Eph. 2:19).
“The children of Abraham” (Gal. 3:7).
“Abraham’s seed” (Gal. 3:29).
“The children of promise” (Rom. 9:8; Gal. 4:28)
. “A people of his own” (Ti. 2:14 — RSV).
“The elect of God” (Col. 3:12)
. “Heirs of God” (Rom. 8:17).
“Heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:29).
“The temple of God” (1 Cor. 3:16).
“The circumcision” (Phil. 3:3).
“The Israel of God” (Gal. 6:16).
Peter said that believers are: “A chosen generation” (1 Pet. 2:9)
. “A royal priesthood” (1 Pet. 2:9)
. “An holy nation” (1 Pet. 2:9).
“A peculiar people” (1 Pet. 2:9).
James said that believers are: “Heirs of the kingdom” (Jas. 2:5)
. John said that believers are: “The sons of God” (Jn. 1:12)
. “Kings and priests unto God” (Rev. 1:6)
“The new Jerusalem” (Rev. 3:12).
“The holy city” (Rev. 21:2).
The letter to the Hebrews said that believers are:
“The people of God” (Heb. 4:9)
. “Mount Zion” (Heb. 12:22).
“The city of the living God” (Heb. 12:22).
“The heavenly Jerusalem” (Heb. 12:22).
The Once and future Israel ,pg 67
“The children of God” (Rom. 8:16).
“The household of God” (Eph. 2:19).
“The children of Abraham” (Gal. 3:7).
“Abraham’s seed” (Gal. 3:29).
“The children of promise” (Rom. 9:8; Gal. 4:28)
. “A people of his own” (Ti. 2:14 — RSV).
“The elect of God” (Col. 3:12)
. “Heirs of God” (Rom. 8:17).
“Heirs according to the promise” (Gal. 3:29).
“The temple of God” (1 Cor. 3:16).
“The circumcision” (Phil. 3:3).
“The Israel of God” (Gal. 6:16).
Peter said that believers are: “A chosen generation” (1 Pet. 2:9)
. “A royal priesthood” (1 Pet. 2:9)
. “An holy nation” (1 Pet. 2:9).
“A peculiar people” (1 Pet. 2:9).
James said that believers are: “Heirs of the kingdom” (Jas. 2:5)
. John said that believers are: “The sons of God” (Jn. 1:12)
. “Kings and priests unto God” (Rev. 1:6)
“The new Jerusalem” (Rev. 3:12).
“The holy city” (Rev. 21:2).
The letter to the Hebrews said that believers are:
“The people of God” (Heb. 4:9)
. “Mount Zion” (Heb. 12:22).
“The city of the living God” (Heb. 12:22).
“The heavenly Jerusalem” (Heb. 12:22).
The Once and future Israel ,pg 67
FreeGrace2 said:
Being "filled with the Spirit" is a command to obey. Being indwelt and being filled are 2 different things.
Every believer has the Holy Spirit in them. Gal 3:2,5 which is by saving faith.
However, Paul gave 2 commands of what not to do:
1. do not grieve the Holy Spirit, Eph 4:30
2. do not quench the Spirit, 1 Thess 5:19
And 2 commands of what TO do:
1. be filled with the Spirit, Eph 5:18
2. walk by means of the Spirit, Gal 5:16
One cannot be filled when they are either grieving or quenching the Spirit.
To be filled with the Holy Spirit is when one is empowered by the Spirit.
Exactly. The subject of 1 John 1 is fellowship with the Lord. v.9 shows what breaks fellowship; sin. Which is why the ONLY WAY to be restored to fellowship is through confession of sin. I'm not talking about the salvation relationship. That is permanent and cannot be broken.
The Bible uses terminology of marriage to describe the believer's relationship to Christ (wife, bride). Now, in a human marriage, when one spouse offends the other, is there harmony or disharmony? This is what being "out of fellowship" looks like.
How is this disharmony restored? The offending spouse needs to confess their offense in order to be back in fellowship again.
So marriage is a picture of our relationship to Christ. When the believer sins, they are out of fellowship with the Lord and lose the blessings that are part of being in fellowship.
So, confession of sin restores fellowship. Being filled is a command and therefore God's will for the believer.
1 John 5:14,15
14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
The key to this passage is to be in fellowship before we "ask anything according to His will". v.15 refects the truth of Isa 66:18 - If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
So, in order for the Lord to hear the believer, they must be in fellowship (have all sins confessed). Then, 1 John 5:14 tells us we can ask anything (to be filled) which is according to His will.
Being "filled with the Spirit" is a command to obey. Being indwelt and being filled are 2 different things.
Every believer has the Holy Spirit in them. Gal 3:2,5 which is by saving faith.
However, Paul gave 2 commands of what not to do:
1. do not grieve the Holy Spirit, Eph 4:30
2. do not quench the Spirit, 1 Thess 5:19
And 2 commands of what TO do:
1. be filled with the Spirit, Eph 5:18
2. walk by means of the Spirit, Gal 5:16
One cannot be filled when they are either grieving or quenching the Spirit.
To be filled with the Holy Spirit is when one is empowered by the Spirit.
Exactly. The subject of 1 John 1 is fellowship with the Lord. v.9 shows what breaks fellowship; sin. Which is why the ONLY WAY to be restored to fellowship is through confession of sin. I'm not talking about the salvation relationship. That is permanent and cannot be broken.
The Bible uses terminology of marriage to describe the believer's relationship to Christ (wife, bride). Now, in a human marriage, when one spouse offends the other, is there harmony or disharmony? This is what being "out of fellowship" looks like.
How is this disharmony restored? The offending spouse needs to confess their offense in order to be back in fellowship again.
So marriage is a picture of our relationship to Christ. When the believer sins, they are out of fellowship with the Lord and lose the blessings that are part of being in fellowship.
So, confession of sin restores fellowship. Being filled is a command and therefore God's will for the believer.
1 John 5:14,15
14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
The key to this passage is to be in fellowship before we "ask anything according to His will". v.15 refects the truth of Isa 66:18 - If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me:
So, in order for the Lord to hear the believer, they must be in fellowship (have all sins confessed). Then, 1 John 5:14 tells us we can ask anything (to be filled) which is according to His will.
John 12:32 - And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Here, "all" does mean "everyone".
However, not everyone responds to the drawing. By dying for the sins of the whole world, Jesus has drawn everyone. It was the greatest expression of love in the universe. All that's left is the response. Not everyone responds to acts of love.
Here, "all" does mean "everyone".
However, not everyone responds to the drawing. By dying for the sins of the whole world, Jesus has drawn everyone. It was the greatest expression of love in the universe. All that's left is the response. Not everyone responds to acts of love.
When it says in the first chapter that this is a PROPHECY, and things will "take place after these things", be absolutely sure that this last book of the bible covers the ENTIRE church age. John was only using the current places, names and concepts to describe the future, using what he knew to describe what he didn't know, what he was familiar with for what he was NOT familiar with. Although it says in chapter 1 that this is addressing to the seven churches in Asia, later in chapter 4, the Lamb appears with seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits that are sent out to the ENTIRE WORLD, did you catch that?
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