TONGUES is a precious gift from God

sure,

a Pentacostel/Charmatic minister which I am is first aa person who is in a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ saved by grace through faith, and has been in empowered by the Holy Spirit as Jesus said in Acts 1:8 who Idenifies with the experiance recorded in Acts chapter 2 and used in the gifts of the Holy Spirit recorded in 1Corthinains chapter 12 through 14.\\


Pentacostel = one who identifys with the empowering of the Holy Spirit 1:8 and Acts 38

Charismatic = one who is open to the gifts of the Holy Spirit and used in them that are listed in 1Corthinains chapter 12 and Eph 4

i was told i don't know what i'm talking about... Can i ask?

Why Speak in tongues?
What is the purpose?
How do you speak in tongues?
When was it done in the bible?
Is there any conditions on who can speak in tongues?

Please quote bible verses to back up your answers.

let us leave the Calvinist out of this

Which Calvinist should I leave out of this? I am not certain I know what you mean by the term this? Let alone which Calvinist to leave out of it!

read 1cor chapter 12 through 14 it's all there,

i quoted many verses and they are clearly saying if no one can understand what you are saying then keep silent.

True that,

1. 1 Corinthians 14:26-27
   So, brothers and sisters, what should you do? When you meet together, one person has a song, another has a teaching, and another has a new truth from God. One person speaks in a different language, and another interprets that language. The purpose of whatever you do should be to help everyone grow stronger in faith.
   When you meet together, if anyone speaks to the group in a different language, it should be only two or no more than three people who do this. And they should speak one after the other. And someone else should interpret what they say.

i quoted many verses and they are clearly saying if no one can understand what you are saying then keep silent.

why speak in tongues? Jesus said we would in Mark 16 and they are a sign to the unbeliever 1cor chapter 14 and he who speaks in tongues speaks to God not a man unless there is an interpretation

How do you know what spirit is giving you the words you speak, and what you are saying.

LOL the topic is not for this thread but do what you like

you have what is known as Confirmation of what did the speaking produce.

The topic was introduced into this thread at the foot of page 9 post #171 - and the context of that post is clear enough. It is where the doctrine of cessation comes from.

1509-1564
John Calvin

• John Calvin (1509-1564): "Calvin noted that glossolalia had not merely facilitated preaching in foreign languages but had also served as an "adornment and honour of the Gospel itself.'' This second ability had been "corrupted" by human "ambition" (e.g., Corinth), and, Calvin reflected, it was not at all strange that God had chosen to remove glossolalic utterances from the church rather than permitting them "to be vitiated with further abuse." (Calvin, Acts, I, 318) (The Charismatic Movement, 1975, Michael P. Hamilton, p 73)

It wasn't a topic or a meaning I introduced into this thread. And yet another poster @SophieT tells me that I introduced the subject of Calvinism by which I believe she meant at page 13 post #258 where I mentioned Calvinism in context of describing the community in which a revival occurred and where the baptism of the Holy Spirit is mentioned along with the term fire falling and trances and believers being thrown on top of one another after a sixteen year old boy had a vision - well you would think all of that would stir some enthusiasm for the teaching of the baptism of the Holy Spirt and its benefits. And you must know all of that because it was to yourself that I made the post herein numbered as #258. But no - it attracted contempt by the wise sister and mistaken accusation and claims to having an agenda and being manipulative and on and on after which I sense that either I stop posting or else I will find no means to say anything at all - unless of course I just post smileys and amusing expressions that can offend no one at all. She also tells me that I won't get what I came for in this forum and that my discernment isn't as good as I think. Well to be honest with you it doesn't take discernment to read English does it?

Then you tell me "let us leave the Calvinist out of this" - presumably to make peace in some way - and by peace that would necessarily mean I stop mentioning Calvinism - regardless of the fact that I am as far removed from the veritable Calvin on the issue of the cessation of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit as the charismatic church is removed from true discernment.

Still I suppose I can take some comfort from knowing that you have now told me that I can post what I want. In truth I sense that no one is free to post anything if it irks a sister who says she has refuted Calvinism and appears determined to bind a man with her wisdom. Perhaps I should just take some lessons from the Word of Faith brigade and start to develop a positive confession precept to avoid any conflict with a wise woman that happens along and imagines that I will yield to the sophistry of words.

Do you think if we brought to light all of the Documentation concerning John Calvin, it will bid well for those who follow him?

We have Court Documents, that put a light upon him, that should make everyone rethink considering his words as something we should build our beliefs upon!

The topic was introduced into this thread at the foot of page 9 post #171 - and the context of that post is clear enough. It is where the doctrine of cessation comes from.

1509-1564
John Calvin

• John Calvin (1509-1564): "Calvin noted that glossolalia had not merely facilitated preaching in foreign languages but had also served as an "adornment and honour of the Gospel itself.'' This second ability had been "corrupted" by human "ambition" (e.g., Corinth), and, Calvin reflected, it was not at all strange that God had chosen to remove glossolalic utterances from the church rather than permitting them "to be vitiated with further abuse." (Calvin, Acts, I, 318) (The Charismatic Movement, 1975, Michael P. Hamilton, p 73)

It wasn't a topic or a meaning I introduced into this thread. And yet another poster @SophieT tells me that I introduced the subject of Calvinism by which I believe she meant at page 13 post #258 where I mentioned Calvinism in context of describing the community in which a revival occurred and where the baptism of the Holy Spirit is mentioned along with the term fire falling and trances and believers being thrown on top of one another after a sixteen year old boy had a vision - well you would think all of that would stir some enthusiasm for the teaching of the baptism of the Holy Spirt and its benefits. And you must know all of that because it was to yourself that I made the post herein numbered as #258. But no - it attracted contempt by the wise sister and mistaken accusation and claims to having an agenda and being manipulative and on and on after which I sense that either I stop posting or else I will find no means to say anything at all - unless of course I just post smileys and amusing expressions that can offend no one at all. She also tells me that I won't get what I came for in this forum and that my discernment isn't as good as I think. Well to be honest with you it doesn't take discernment to read English does it?

Then you tell me "let us leave the Calvinist out of this" - presumably to make peace in some way - and by peace that would necessarily mean I stop mentioning Calvinism - regardless of the fact that I am as far removed from the veritable Calvin on the issue of the cessation of the baptism of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Holy Spirit as the charismatic church is removed from true discernment.

Still I suppose I can take some comfort from knowing that you have now told me that I can post what I want. In truth I sense that no one is free to post anything if it irks a sister who says she has refuted Calvinism and appears determined to bind a man with her wisdom. Perhaps I should just take some lessons from the Word of Faith brigade and start to develop a positive confession precept to avoid any conflict with a wise woman that happens along and imagines that I will yield to the sophistry of words.