TONGUES false teaching.

TDidymas, you clearly have a jibber jabber spirit. Send in you tax free donation for information on how to get rid of it.

Your question is insincere by nature. Both you and I know what Acts 1:8 says. It's your claim that you have attained to it that is what I am questioning. Therefore, stop evading and trying to redirect. Either prove you have the power, or be silent as the apostle Paul commands.

IMO your questions are not addressing the real issue. The real question is, 'does what people practice today called tongues the same thing as what was done in the NT?' Would you agree with this?

A.) If what is done today is not the same thing as Acts 2, then it is not from God.
B.) The only one I know of doesn't directly say, but has an implication: Heb. 2:4. Since the writer of Hebrews excludes himself from "those who heard," he excludes himself from performing signs and wonders, and ultimately the gift of tongues. Since he also says "those who heard" (directly and literally from Jesus), the implication is that ONLY those people performed those signs. So, by implication, when those people died, it is reasonable to assume that the miraculous gifts died with them.

It's not saying that all miracles ceased, but that those gifts of miracles ceased, which a person had to exercise at his discretion. Gifts given to individuals permanently, not just a one-time event. After all, isn't this the assumption about tongues today? "I have the gift of tongues" means that person has been given a permanent gift to exercise at his own discretion. Do you agree with this?

But then there is the problem of the Corinthian church. Is there any indication that the gifts, including tongues, was given to many individuals? Was it really so prolific as Charismatics claim? Does the scripture anywhere imply it?

You claim that "they even said Jesus was healed by the power of the devil" - give me the reference, because I think you're making this up.

A.) Intellectually dishonest???
B.) Irrevelent?

Ad Hominen attack are not supportive but undermines your position.

Let's seek to please God and not ourselves.

AGREE = We are not follow false teachers/preachers/religions but only the Truth according to "It is written."

I am only covering what is written for us to embrace and believe in His Word.

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.

AGREE = We are not to believe what religion says but what God says.

AGREE = misuse of any Gift that God gives us is wrong but that does not make the Gift wrong or the Believer who operates in those Gifts under the obedience to Christ.

Yet more evasion.

I'm not questioning the usage of the gift, I'm questioning the gift itself. If people have false tongues, but are claiming it's the gift of the Spirit, they are taking the name of the Lord in vain. This is a serious problem that needs to be addressed and corrected. I ask again, have you read my original post here: https://christianchat.com/threads/tongues-false-teaching.196454/post-4737227
?

excuse me the Phaieeses said Jesus healed people by the power of the devil. I had a type-o error

Before we can even approach the 'analysis' and 'documentation' of spiritual things which very seldom can be measured in physical terms, we must first find out if the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were a 'one and done' outpouring by God.

answer my question, you are the poster child of the word.

I'm just trying to find out for myself and for millions of other Christians, where does the practice of tongues today come from - is it from God, or from men? We already know the claim. Let's go for the proof. I think this is a good place to start, since tongues is so prominent. If people accepted this task, it could be started immediately. If we had a valid process by which to discern between the real and the fake, I think it would go a long way to solving this controversy. Agreed?

If you haven't read my original post here: https://christianchat.com/threads/tongues-false-teaching.196454/post-4737227
please do so, so that you can know where I am coming from. I'm trying to get people to be part of the solution instead of part of the problem.

So you want people to believe God himself wrote the bible?

Are you serious?

Only a naive person would believe that.

People should teach more realistic material, and I think people would have a better understanding of Christ himself.

I just don't see your logic on how you jump from what I said to your questions. You are obviously making assumptions that don't exist in my posts. Did you read my original post here: https://christianchat.com/threads/tongues-false-teaching.196454/post-4737227
Can you see that I'm trying to get people to be a part of the solution, not the problem?

Documenting miraculous acts can be very uplifting and edifying. But merely claiming something is miraculous doesn't make it so. I'm a realist, which means I don't blindly accept what any person says, especially since I discovered I was deceived when I did blindly accept it. Fool me once...

There has been much acknowledgement among Charismatics that there is a false tongues, and I assert that it is much more prominent than people care to admit. Do you agree there has to be a major correction among the churches concerning this issue?

Snide comments don't solve anything. Do you have something of value to contribute?

Before we can even approach the 'analysis' and 'documentation' of spiritual things which very seldom can be measured in physical terms, we must first find out if the Gifts of the Holy Spirit were a 'one and done' outpouring by God.

If, YES - then it's all of satan.

If, NO - then we know, by Scripture, of it's misuse and even fakery.

You can have faith and still be a tad bit more realistic dear

You said: "I'm just trying to find out for myself and for millions of other Christians, where does the practice of tongues today come from - is it from God, or from men?"

AMEN - AGREE - Let's find that answer.

Where would you start for the answer?

So this quote "I spoke in tongues as it is taught by all those denominations," doesn't hold true for A of G. AofG doesn't "teach" people to speak in tongues. While I don't at this moment attend an AofG church, I have most of my life. I have family members that are pastors in the AofG in Canada. If anyone were to "teach" a person to talk in tongues they would lose their licence. Benny Hinn use to be a part of the AofG and he parted ways with them because they didn't hold with many of his teachings. I have never attended the other churches, but I do know Holiness Pentecostal sees tongues as an issue of salvation, AofG does not. I didn't read you post fully because I've heard all the arguments before. I don't see it as an issue of salvation and I don't see arguing with people who have already made up their minds not to change their minds. Waste of time an breath. The only issue I have is when a person says it's done by demonic power or the person is a fraud, then we're going to have a come to Jesus moment. Otherwise, why argue. If it's something you don't want to seek, don't. But don't tar everyone with the same brush, please. That's all I have to say on the subject.

Is faith not realistic?