Seventh Day Adventist

The SDA church basis much of it's authority on the teachings and prophecies of Ellen White. Unfortunately, Ellen White was a false prophet. Click on the link below to learn about White.

False Prophecies and Teachings of Ellen G. White

False Prophecies and Teachings of Ellen G. White – James Attebury (wordpress.com)

I believe John Calvin was a false prophet.
Does that mean all reformed believers are not saved?

Ellen White herself said that she was not a prophet. The SDA church bases its authority on scripture.

that's easy enough

6Therefore, just as you have received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to walk in Him, 7rooted and built up in Him, established in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.
8See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. 9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity dwells in bodily form. 10And you have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.
11In Him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of your sinful nature, with the circumcision performed by Christb and not by human hands. 12And having been buried with Him in baptism, you were raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead.
13When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses, 14having canceled the debt ascribed to us in the decrees that stood against us. He took it away, nailing it to the cross! 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
16Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. 17These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts it belongs to Christ.c 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you with speculation about what he has seen. Such a person is puffed up without basis by his unspiritual mind. 19He has lost connection to the head, from whom the whole body, supported and knit together by its joints and ligaments, grows as God causes it to grow.
20If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations: 21“Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!”? 22These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such restrictions indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-prescribed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body; but they are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
Colossians 2

I'm sure we can discuss that further. Hebrews has nothing to do with instructions on keeping the Sabbath

the purpose of Hebrews was to exhort Christians in the face of persecution...not exhorting them to keep the Sabbath. you have to understand that it was revolutionary for Jewish people to commit to following Christ and understand that salvation is through Him alone, see Colossians 2 above (and of course many other passages)

it is interesting and yet sad, that so many seem to want to revert to the law, or think they should keep parts of it, and of course the 'Sabbath keeping' is the easiest thing in the world to follow. no effort at all...just change days and declare that you are keeping the Sabbath when nothing we do can earn or keep us saved. all of Christianity is through faith and in that regard, Hebrews is actually a book famous for its examples of faith.

Letter to the Colossians (church at Colossae) by Paul to admonish them as he had heard they were falling into serious error

the New Testament contains nothing at all about how we are to keep the law, parts of the law or special days. Christ is all. He is our High Priest whose sinless blood is on the altar and no more sacrifices are needed and no 'works' on our part

I believe in this state: The Bible is inerrant, infallible, holy, inspired, Word of God.

With this mixture it can not be anything else but perfect and objective.

So the blame of subjective interpretations can only be at the feet of mankind.

I agree every perceived Christian denomination or human being has certain flaws related to interpretation.

But I do believe God guides us in salvation truth. There should be a basic level of agreement within salvation. If we differ over that then scripture warns us of other gospels.

exactly...sometimes I wonder how many actually know this. error has always been around. the truth is actually simple

ummm.....if you mean like an OT prophet, then I would concur

however:

Ellen G. White became a leader of a segment of the Millerites (who called themselves Adventists) in May of 1863. Her many visions and writings influenced the formation of Seventh-Day Adventism and greatly shaped its doctrine. Today, most Seventh-Day Adventists still consider Ellen White to be a prophetess of God.

Ellen G. White was formerly a Methodist but later converted to Adventism through the preaching of William Miller, a false prophet who had predicted Christ would return in 1843 or 1844. When Miller’s prediction of Christ’s second advent failed to come true, the Millerites disbanded in dismay; however, a couple of Miller’s followers claimed to have visions to account for the failed prophecy. One of these seers was 17-year-old Ellen G. Harmon, who had the first of her 2,000 purported visions in a prayer meeting shortly after Miller’s disgrace. In her vision, Ellen claimed to have seen the Adventists on a journey to the city of God. Ellen G. Harmon soon became the beacon of hope for disappointed Millerites, the unifier of Adventist factions, and the spiritual guide for a new religious group.
GotQuestions

she started off on a bad foot, following Miller who made the fatal mistake of saying when Jesus would return and of course, failed.

bad beginnings = error

as you can see from the above, White (her maiden name was Harmon) claimed to have visions that explained the failed prophecy..so that alone is considered prophecy...or exhortation...as would be considered for a NT prophet...but of course it was false and not of God

so while she claims not to be a prophet, she behaves as one. this is but one example of many

ummm....the truth simply being that someone was following a false spirit and not the Holy Spirit

again, I am pretty sure that many in the movement do not know the entire history...I always check into history, one of my fav subjects...and do not know how things got started.

I do believe you can be saved and still believe error. does not mean you are not saved..we see this all the time

btw, that is a good article on Got Questions (link provided) for someone wanting historical facts and of course the web itself has hundreds if not thousands of articles about the SDA's

yes it is

but also means resting from all work! no more sacrifices, no more law upon law or terrible punishments and condemnation

we are set free from all of that!

The ten commandments was the foundation for the Mosiac law as to why Moses spent so many days and nights up on the mountain. The Mosiac law was inspired by God. As to why it was a death sentence to not keep the Sabbath.

I'll just adhere to


Colossians 2:16
New International Version
16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

Sabbath in English
In Greek
4521. sabbaton

Actually, I'm not much a fan of Ellen White at all. The SDA church does themselves a dis-service by how often they refer to her teachings. I do know from the services that I did attend that they believe in the Holy Trinity and that Jesus died for our sins. My wife is an SDA. I was born and raised a Catholic but have not attend mass for years due to various doctrine and practices that are contrary to spiritual truth. I know a little SDA history but not a whole lot. I do know that they have some strange perceptions on end-time events that I do not agree with. I'm not a big SDA fan but only pointing out that Ellen White herself said that she was not a prophet and that the Word of God always takes precedence over what she may believe and write about.

yeah...I got the picture that she is SDA from her post...

listen...accepting Christ as our Savior and understanding He alone is our salvation is what counts

many 'Christian' churches are in error in one place or another and some are becoming apostate

as has been said, it is all about Jesus!

I know White said she was not a prophet, but research indicates the opposite

just so!

I had looked up "ellen white"+"prophecies" while looking into Adventists. They were strange and i couldn't makes sense of them. in photos of her expression reminds me of Rasputin. Her teachings are ludicrous--that naming of a date when 'such and such' happens--humans live in time--not God. With only that one thing it would seem obvious she is a false prophet. But the rest is nonsense--Christ moved from the Holy Place to the most Holy Place--there is no temple in heaven! And the worst of all of it is when she says SATAN is the scapegoat. How could they read this and not see her teaching as both nonsensical and blasphemous?

But again all mainstream denominations have cleverly devised false doctrines that may appear true, but when tested against scripture fail miserably. They are dangerous in their subtlety.

oh man don't get started on Calvin

we have had numerous battle royales over that

he did go overboard

No. The 10 Commandments and Mosaic Law are TWO different things--Christ call us to keep the Commandments not the Law.

Also I pointed this subtle but very important difference; it say let no one judge you on 'A' Sabbath day, not THE Sabbath Day.

Here is the list of special Sabbaths--again they are not THE SABBATH:

• 1. Shabbat Shuvah (or Shabbat Teshuvah)
• 2. Shabbat Bereishit
• 3. Shabbat Chanukah
• 4. Shabbat Shirah
• 5. Shabbat Shekalim
• 6. Shabbat Zachor
• 7. Shabbat Parah
• 8. Shabbat Hachodesh
• 9. Shabbat Hagadol
• 10. Shabbat Chazon
• 11. Shabbat Nachamu
• 12. Shabbat Chol Hamoed
• 13. Shabbat Mevarchim

From Wikipedia:

High Sabbaths, also called Special Sabbaths -- These are the 'A' Sabbath's as opposed to THE SABBATH --sabbath simple means 'rest'

High Sabbaths
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about a group of seven biblical festivals. For Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur specifically, see High Holy Days. For Sabbath before Pesach, see Shabbat haGadol.
High Sabbaths, in most Christian and Messianic Jewish usage, are seven annual biblical festivals and rest days, recorded in the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy.[1][2][3] This is an extension of the term "high day" found in the King James Version at John 19:31.
Contents

• 1Biblical rest days
  • 1.1As coincidental with weekly Sabbaths
• 2High Holy Days
• 3References

Biblical rest days[edit]
The seven festivals do not necessarily occur on weekly Shabbat (seventh-day Sabbath) and are called by the name miqra ("called assembly") in Hebrew (Lev. 23). They are observed by Jews and a minority of Christians. Two of the shabbath (holy assemblies) occur in spring on the first and last day of the Feast of unleavened bread (Matzot). One occurs in the summer, this is the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot). And four occur in the fall in the seventh month. Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teru'ah) on the first day of the seventh month; the second is the Day or Atonement (Yom Kippur); and two during the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) on the first and last day. Sometimes the word shabbaton is extended to mean all seven festivals.[4]
The Gospel of John says of the day beginning following Christ's death, "that sabbath day was a high day" (19:31–42). That night was Nisan 15, just after the first day of Passover week (Unleavened Bread) and an annual miqra and rest day, in most chronologies. (In other systems, it was Nisan 13 or 14, i.e., weekly but not annual Sabbath.) The King James Version may thus be the origin of naming the annual rest days "High Sabbaths" in English.

This is why I believe that the Sabbath was instituted as a shadow/type, for now we find our rest in Christ. It is not specific to any day as it once was, when even to carry a pin in your pocket was considered work. How ridiculous is that? And yet that is the lengths legalists will go in attempting to force others to "keep" the Sabbath, and condemn them if they don't. Jesus Himself was accused of breaking the Sabbath. The religious leaders sought to kill Him because of it. Now we get people coming here (to this site) saying such ridiculous things as, "It is breaking a commandment to worship God on Sunday." The fact of the matter is, there is no such commandment. The fact of the matter is, worshiping God every day is recommended. The fact of the matter is, God desires those who worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.

Jesus is my Sabbath rest.


Matthew 11:28-30

Parable? This is no parable. Jesus is speaking to the rich man in response to his question "What must I do to have eternal life?"

Matthew 19:16-22

16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[a] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

17 So He said to him, [b]“Why do you call Me good? [c]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

20 The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [d]from my youth. What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

I explained the Word meaning in Greek. Definitely speaks of the 7th day not a festival or ceremony.

Let us not forget, that under the law as the rich young ruler was, to fail in one part of the law was to fail the whole of it.

James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.