Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people
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Well, here I AM!
Doesn't seem like many have took up the cause to debate this nonsense.
But seriously I or no one else has to defend God's character. He is more than capable of defending it himself.
God is a God of many characteristics and has many personality traits.
He is loving, just, good, holy, and all that is good and honest.
He is also a God of wrath, judgement, and justice.
Like I said, he has many characteristics; however, "evil puppet master" isn't one of them. Anyone who thinks it is, needs to sincerely pray for wisdom and review the scriptures.
All that you have stated in your post is the main reason that scripture tells us we need to study to show ourselves approved and rightly divide the word of God. The scriptures are spiritually discerned so reading through it with a natural/carnal eye and just taking a few verses to try to form a doctrine leads to confusion and misunderstanding.
I don't claim to know it all. I'm still learning, but I can debate each one of the points you have made simply be reading the scriptures and taking the whole message together.
1 Giving a law isn't evil nor does it create evil. Evil was created by the individual (satan/man/whoever) that did not follow God's commandment. God didn't make evil. He allows it to stand for now, but we know what he is going to do with it in the end. He does allow the evil to grow with the good, but in the end he is going to separate them and destroy evil. He isn't tempted of evil and doesn't temp any man with evil. He is not rooting for evil or working with it. He is going to destroy it in the end. Again, we gain this understanding by taking in the whole scriptures and rightly dividing the Word of God. (Spiritually discerned)
2. Predestined doesn't mean what Calvin taught. Calvinist have a few misapplied scriptures to try to uphold the false, evil, heresy that God creates some folks to burn for no other reason than he wants to. Many study the scripture in vain trying to hold up some perverse theology. In order, to up hold that heresy they have to completely twist the other scriptures because their position cannot be rightly divided with the other scriptures.
God is not an evil puppet master!
Doesn't seem like many have took up the cause to debate this nonsense.
But seriously I or no one else has to defend God's character. He is more than capable of defending it himself.
God is a God of many characteristics and has many personality traits.
He is loving, just, good, holy, and all that is good and honest.
He is also a God of wrath, judgement, and justice.
Like I said, he has many characteristics; however, "evil puppet master" isn't one of them. Anyone who thinks it is, needs to sincerely pray for wisdom and review the scriptures.
All that you have stated in your post is the main reason that scripture tells us we need to study to show ourselves approved and rightly divide the word of God. The scriptures are spiritually discerned so reading through it with a natural/carnal eye and just taking a few verses to try to form a doctrine leads to confusion and misunderstanding.
I don't claim to know it all. I'm still learning, but I can debate each one of the points you have made simply be reading the scriptures and taking the whole message together.
1 Giving a law isn't evil nor does it create evil. Evil was created by the individual (satan/man/whoever) that did not follow God's commandment. God didn't make evil. He allows it to stand for now, but we know what he is going to do with it in the end. He does allow the evil to grow with the good, but in the end he is going to separate them and destroy evil. He isn't tempted of evil and doesn't temp any man with evil. He is not rooting for evil or working with it. He is going to destroy it in the end. Again, we gain this understanding by taking in the whole scriptures and rightly dividing the Word of God. (Spiritually discerned)
2. Predestined doesn't mean what Calvin taught. Calvinist have a few misapplied scriptures to try to uphold the false, evil, heresy that God creates some folks to burn for no other reason than he wants to. Many study the scripture in vain trying to hold up some perverse theology. In order, to up hold that heresy they have to completely twist the other scriptures because their position cannot be rightly divided with the other scriptures.
God is not an evil puppet master!
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Betty Botter bought some butter;
"But," said she, "this butter's bitter!
If I put it in my batter
It will make my batter bitter.
But a bit o' better butter
Will but make my batter better."
Then she bought a bit o’ butter
Better than the bitter butter,
Made her bitter batter better.
So 'twas better Betty Botter
Bought a bit o’ better butter.
"But," said she, "this butter's bitter!
If I put it in my batter
It will make my batter bitter.
But a bit o' better butter
Will but make my batter better."
Then she bought a bit o’ butter
Better than the bitter butter,
Made her bitter batter better.
So 'twas better Betty Botter
Bought a bit o’ better butter.
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I've never heard that one before....Guess, you can learn something new everyday....lol
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You are very wordy without clearly getting to your point, you go around and around the bush. The bottom line that we are in last days when demons have taken control of the world. The Holy Spirit works in our world with Christians giving them Christian ideas, the demons are at work in the fleshly world opposing those ideas.
Even dedicated Christians feed their minds and souls with movies and TV. They teach that family has changed, that we are to be tolerant of disobedience to God for that is love, they oppose the idea of "the two shall become one" creating a family. Instead they teach lust.
Not long ago a popular and delightful TV sitcom called Bewitched taught that witches were good things doing good. Every one khinkss "The Force" as taught in a favorite movie is not an idol as in fact it is, it represents the one true God, and isn't that what idols are? Idols make a God of something that isn't God.
Demons are masters at using and twisting scripture. We need to know more, not less, of how they work so we can recognize and protect ourselves from the thoughts they are feeding us.
Even dedicated Christians feed their minds and souls with movies and TV. They teach that family has changed, that we are to be tolerant of disobedience to God for that is love, they oppose the idea of "the two shall become one" creating a family. Instead they teach lust.
Not long ago a popular and delightful TV sitcom called Bewitched taught that witches were good things doing good. Every one khinkss "The Force" as taught in a favorite movie is not an idol as in fact it is, it represents the one true God, and isn't that what idols are? Idols make a God of something that isn't God.
Demons are masters at using and twisting scripture. We need to know more, not less, of how they work so we can recognize and protect ourselves from the thoughts they are feeding us.
S
do you know who Lucifer was? (I'm not really asking cause I don't think it means a fig newton to you what anyone says)
God created Lucifer, who became the devil, when he decided he would take God's place
seems you just make it up as you go along and when you get caught in error, you say 'I meant to say.....fill in the blank'
like a tap that won't quit dripping
the bottom line is, the devil was once in heaven and knew God. you, maybe not so much
God created Lucifer, who became the devil, when he decided he would take God's place
seems you just make it up as you go along and when you get caught in error, you say 'I meant to say.....fill in the blank'
like a tap that won't quit dripping
the bottom line is, the devil was once in heaven and knew God. you, maybe not so much
S
that whole post makes me go AAAAAAAARGH
so let me just address a few erroneous things
God is not playing a game with anyone. Genesis makes no such statement. that appears to be conjecture on your part and nothing more
yet Jesus said that God alone is good. musta been perfect then. you sure do take liberty with scripture
more conjecture. if what you say is true, why then did God say this: 2 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand rand take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—” 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden sto work the ground from which he was taken. 24 He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life. Genesis 3
was God just being dramatic? or did He create robots....
the devil is also our adversary. it seems you are heading towards the following quote and trying to lead people there by submitting a form of logic that does not adhere to the biblical account...yet more conjecture
I could really get harsh here reading that some person actually would write we are God's puppets.
yet, more just plain dumb and erroneous insinuating yourself into the Bible
Jesus calls us His friends. we are not puppets.
No longer do I call you servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because all things that I heard from My Father, I have made known to you. John 15:15
Jesus was talking to His disciples, but we are told that the Holy Spirit will also lead us into all truth, and make known to us the mind of the Father
you are so far off understanding what happened in the garden, the role of the devil and our own free will given by God, that you have managed to come up with your own version of events both in the garden and our relationship with God
we are not puppets. if that is your understanding, I guess you can blame God for everything you do...good or evil. That, would be the logical conclusion to your statement about puppets
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