Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

Ok so would it be fair to now add theese scriptures what Jesus spoke which would go with this scripture.
mathew 5:20
For I say unto you that unless your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Now secondly should we belief this scripture or should we believe Jesus ?

Do you believe the words of the scribes and Jews saying Jesus works with Demons or do you believe Jesus saying he doesnt work with demons ?...

Do you believe the words of the scribes and Jews saying Jesus works with Demons or do you believe Jesus saying he doesnt work with demons ?...


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hi again all you beautiful christians so i thought i would a have break from this some what heated discussion where by the words of Jesus have been denied over and over again. So this scriptures repersents the jewish people telling yet more lies and there scribes writing theese lies, if you will read it you will clearly see Jesus being accused of working with a demon. Now i dont know about you Guys but could you call this God inspired or from the holy spirit or true, ? this looks like an outright lie to me, what do you all think ? Dont forget Jesus told the Jews that there father was of the devil. (ie the Jews where being decieved by demons as to the scribes.
luke:22-32
Jesus Is Accused of Working with a demon for doing good works.


22 Then some people brought Yeshua a man possessed by a demon. The demon made the man blind and unable to talk. Yeshua cured him so that he could talk and see.

23 The crowds were all amazed and said, “Can this man be the Son of David?” 24 When the Pharisees heard this, they said, “This man can force demons out of people only with the help of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons.”

25 Since Yeshua knew what they were thinking, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is ruined. And every city or household divided against itself will not last. 26 If Satan forces Satan out, he is divided against himself. How, then, can his kingdom last? 27 If I force demons out of people with the help of Beelzebul, who helps your followers force them out? That’s why they will be your judges. 28 But if I force demons out with the help of God’s Spirit, then the kingdom of God has come to you. 29 How can anyone go into a strong man’s house and steal his property? First he must tie up the strong man. Then he can go through his house and steal his property.

30 “Whoever isn’t with me is against me. Whoever doesn’t gather with me scatters. 31 So I can guarantee that people will be forgiven for any sin or cursing. However, cursing the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world or the next.


John 8:49
Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me

here is Jesus well and truly saying i am not a devil and i dont work with them but yet the jews here where claiming other wise.
Not only that But Jesus is indicating here that demons (demons are not from heaven.)

Ok so would it be fair to now add theese scriptures what Jesus spoke which would go with this scripture.
mathew 5:20
For I say unto you that unless your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Now secondly should we belief this scripture or should we believe Jesus ?

Do you believe the words of the scribes and Jews saying Jesus works with Demons or do you believe Jesus saying he doesnt work with demons ?...

He picked Judas who he knew was a devil to walk with him in ministry.

I never thought of it that way before.

Nope people kill them selfs because they believe the lies of the antichrist.(believing it as come from God)
then the anti christ takes over there mind. Youve got it the other way round. which gives power to Satan, which is what he wants you to believe, that God has enpowered him to be the tempter, thus forcing us to unknowingly worshipping the beast. Thats about it where by we are unknowingly worshiping the beast in his wierd way of his reasoning, he then puts his mark upon us, he forces the wrong belief and our worship by combining Good with evil.

Good morning De-emerald. I don't get where you are coming from?

It is the whole story being told here. That is what the Pharisees thought and yes, they were wrong. Scripture even proves them wrong right after that. It is just telling the whole story. The complete scripture tells the true story. So I don't get the point you are trying to make?

so far 9 people have voted in this thread suggesting that they do and resort to calling me a heretic for disagreeing with them.

i would be weary of anyone prepared to argue in great lenght that they do work together and defend demons.. i would seariously be wary of who your getting advice of on this thread.

The reality is demons are pure evil.

Yes.
Did he allow Satan to kill the wife and children of faithful Job just to win a wager as to the strength of Job's faithfulness? When Sovereign God is Omniscient, the answer in his word is, yes.

This is why people believe the lies of the antichrist:
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
…and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.…

Do you believe the words of the scribes and Jews saying Jesus works with Demons or do you believe Jesus saying he doesnt work with demons ?...


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hi again all you beautiful christians so i thought i would a have break from this some what heated discussion where by the words of Jesus have been denied over and over again. So this scriptures repersents the jewish people telling yet more lies and there scribes writing theese lies, if you will read it you will clearly see Jesus being accused of working with a demon. Now i dont know about you Guys but could you call this God inspired or from the holy spirit or true, ? this looks like an outright lie to me, what do you all think ? Dont forget Jesus told the Jews that there father was of the devil. (ie the Jews where being decieved by demons as to the scribes.
luke:22-32
Jesus Is Accused of Working with a demon for doing good works.


22 Then some people brought Yeshua a man possessed by a demon. The demon made the man blind and unable to talk. Yeshua cured him so that he could talk and see.

23 The crowds were all amazed and said, “Can this man be the Son of David?” 24 When the Pharisees heard this, they said, “This man can force demons out of people only with the help of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons.”

25 Since Yeshua knew what they were thinking, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is ruined. And every city or household divided against itself will not last. 26 If Satan forces Satan out, he is divided against himself. How, then, can his kingdom last? 27 If I force demons out of people with the help of Beelzebul, who helps your followers force them out? That’s why they will be your judges. 28 But if I force demons out with the help of God’s Spirit, then the kingdom of God has come to you. 29 How can anyone go into a strong man’s house and steal his property? First he must tie up the strong man. Then he can go through his house and steal his property.

30 “Whoever isn’t with me is against me. Whoever doesn’t gather with me scatters. 31 So I can guarantee that people will be forgiven for any sin or cursing. However, cursing the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world or the next.


John 8:49
Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me

here is Jesus well and truly saying i am not a devil and i dont work with them but yet the jews here where claiming other wise.
Not only that But Jesus is indicating here that demons (demons are not from heaven.)

Ok so would it be fair to now add theese scriptures what Jesus spoke which would go with this scripture.
mathew 5:20
For I say unto you that unless your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Now secondly should we belief this scripture or should we believe Jesus ?

Do you believe the words of the scribes and Jews saying Jesus works with Demons or do you believe Jesus saying he doesnt work with demons ?...

@Pilgrimshope @JaumeJ @1ofthem @Absolutely @AandW @Mem @Dino246 @Magenta @Lucy-Pevensie @glen55 @Gideon300 @Runningman @Ahwatukee @tourist. @Blade @Rolly @Nehemiah6 @presidente @posthuman @Kidron @azsheepdog @DrGuyPhD @Icedaisey @GRACE_ambassador


hi again all you beautiful christians so i thought i would a have break from this some what heated discussion where by the words of Jesus have been denied over and over again. So this scriptures repersents the jewish people telling yet more lies and there scribes writing theese lies, if you will read it you will clearly see Jesus being accused of working with a demon. Now i dont know about you Guys but could you call this God inspired or from the holy spirit or true, ? this looks like an outright lie to me, what do you all think ? Dont forget Jesus told the Jews that there father was of the devil. (ie the Jews where being decieved by demons as to the scribes.
luke:22-32
Jesus Is Accused of Working with a demon for doing good works.


22 Then some people brought Yeshua a man possessed by a demon. The demon made the man blind and unable to talk. Yeshua cured him so that he could talk and see.

23 The crowds were all amazed and said, “Can this man be the Son of David?” 24 When the Pharisees heard this, they said, “This man can force demons out of people only with the help of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons.”

25 Since Yeshua knew what they were thinking, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is ruined. And every city or household divided against itself will not last. 26 If Satan forces Satan out, he is divided against himself. How, then, can his kingdom last? 27 If I force demons out of people with the help of Beelzebul, who helps your followers force them out? That’s why they will be your judges. 28 But if I force demons out with the help of God’s Spirit, then the kingdom of God has come to you. 29 How can anyone go into a strong man’s house and steal his property? First he must tie up the strong man. Then he can go through his house and steal his property.

30 “Whoever isn’t with me is against me. Whoever doesn’t gather with me scatters. 31 So I can guarantee that people will be forgiven for any sin or cursing. However, cursing the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this world or the next.


John 8:49
Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me

here is Jesus well and truly saying i am not a devil and i dont work with them but yet the jews here where claiming other wise.
Not only that But Jesus is indicating here that demons (demons are not from heaven.)

Ok so would it be fair to now add theese scriptures what Jesus spoke which would go with this scripture.
mathew 5:20
For I say unto you that unless your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Now secondly should we belief this scripture or should we believe Jesus ?

Do you believe the words of the scribes and Jews saying Jesus works with Demons or do you believe Jesus saying he doesnt work with demons ?...

I tried to read the OP, but the multitudinous spelling and usage errors made it too irritating to continue. How hard is it to spell correctly? Doesn't anyone use a dictionary anymore? Even the thread title is badly flawed; it's two distinct questions written as one sentence, with no intervening punctuation.

Please, de-emerald, put a little effort into learning to write the English language properly. If nothing else, read your Bible, and emulate what you find written therein.

What a legalistic nitpicker!y!
You blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
Looks like someone needs to clean the inside of their own cup and remove the huge beam in their own eye, that they may see clearly enough to know that being irritated at and belittling another person's grammar and spelling, is not only wrong and trivial on the surface, by not walking in love, but is wicked at heart.
Tactics such as this, are used not only to silence the other person through shame and humiliation, but is also for the purpose of elevating, exalting, or lifting up one's self, to show themselves superior to the one they despise and try to belittle. In this case, it was the intellect.
What's more important here, the subject of the thread, or the poor grammar and spelling, or rather, your arrogant attitude?

Where is the fate of Job's wife recorded in Scripture? Thank you in advance...

I was going to say the same thing but technically God did allow it, even if Satan didn't kill her. Although I certainly wouldn't frame the ordeal as a "wager".

Where is Job's wife's fate recorded in Scripture?

It was claimed Satan killed her. Where is that said? I am looking for chapter and verse...