Sabbath

No I am aware of the history of the SDA Church. Their leaders had Meetings with Walter Martin and they changed to correct doctrines that are necessary for Salvation. At a latter date they had a movement of reform in their church turning away from legalism to grace.

that is patently not true. the confusion with keeping the law with an emphasis on the 4th commandment is ongoing as recent (within the last 3 days or so) posts in this thread from SDA members indicate

the lie that we believe there are no more commandments continues in order to create emphasis on the law, when the emphasis should be on being a new creation in Christ. if and when grace is mentioned, it is in response to someone objecting to the emphasis on law keeping.

Christians who actually understand the law as it was given and the fact that it was a SHADOW of the perfect salvation through Christ, are accused of being sinners etc. Sabbath keepers are one confused lot of people and do not understand who it is they are actually supposed to follow

Thank you for posting this and I quite agree.
Throughout the gospels jesus was shown to participate in the sabbaths and feast according to custom.
What many don't realize is just as the church has wolves in sheep's clothing so do the jews.
The Pharisees and Sadducees in jesus day took the law and added to it to control the masses.
Making it impossible for anyone to follow.
The law could never save nor was it intended for that purpose, but it showed our need for a savior to rescue us from it.
Anti-Semitic views and teachings in the early churches who also reguarded replacement theology as sound doctrine has done much harm in understanding the scriptures, making a almost instant rejection in any Jewish practice.
Many christians today avoid old testament studies especially about the law and appointed times under the banner it does not apply to christians under the new covenant. Yet the new covenant was given to the jews first as it is in line with God's order.....to the jews first then the gentiles.
God has stated that he is a never changing holy one it would be wise to study theses things and see if it isn't or is so.

The law does not apply to believers in Christ. Acquaint yourself with the teachings of Paul to better understand that. In fact, the Apostle Peter was soundly rebuked by Paul because he was sliding from freedom in Christ back into legalistic practices. He accepted what Paul had to say and changed his behavior

We, as followers of our Lord Jesus Christ, are not bound by the law. We have been redeemed by the blood of Jesus, not animals, and are free of condemnation because of it. I do not practice replacement theology and I have a sound comprehension of both old and new testaments. the confusion occurs when people believe that in some manner, the law is still binding on them. It is not

A person may say that many Christians today avoid the OT, as you do in your post, but I would point out that many must avoid the NT to insist they are still bound to ANY part of the law. Paul refers to Hagar the slave woman and to Sarah the free woman, to explain the difference

We are free in Christ. The lie many Sabbath keepers like to promulgate, is that saying we are free in Christ means we think we can sin. This is totally false and has been addressed over and over in this forum alone.

Galatians 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

Ephesians 3:12 In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence.

Galatians 5:13-14 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Romans 6:22 But now that you have been set free from sin and become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

1 Peter 2:16 Live as free men, but do not use your freedom to cover-up for evil; live as servants of God.

What does it mean for us today, to keep the Sabbath holy? It is still a commandment.....

Fulfilling the righteousness demanded by the 4th commandment is seeking first the kingdom of GOD and his righteousness so that we may know GOD.

Thank you for posting this and I quite agree.
Throughout the gospels jesus was shown to participate in the sabbaths and feast according to custom.
What many don't realize is just as the church has wolves in sheep's clothing so do the jews.
The Pharisees and Sadducees in jesus day took the law and added to it to control the masses.
Making it impossible for anyone to follow.
The law could never save nor was it intended for that purpose, but it showed our need for a savior to rescue us from it.
Anti-Semitic views and teachings in the early churches who also reguarded replacement theology as sound doctrine has done much harm in understanding the scriptures, making a almost instant rejection in any Jewish practice.
Many christians today avoid old testament studies especially about the law and appointed times under the banner it does not apply to christians under the new covenant. Yet the new covenant was given to the jews first as it is in line with God's order.....to the jews first then the gentiles.
God has stated that he is a never changing holy one it would be wise to study theses things and see if it isn't or is so.

Being indwelt by God's holy spirit we're always in relationship with the most high.
The argument that really doesn't comport with scripture is that which condemns observation of the Sabbath, while the one making that argument knows themselves to be one who goes to church on Sunday. That's observing what is the spirit of the Sabbath on a day the Lord did not identify as the day of rest.

There is that argument that repeatedly argues, we are not under the law. And yet, if that is believed they would then be arguing they don't abide nor respect the ten moral commands, or laws of God, that Jesus did not abolish at all. The law and the prophets , he said, hang on two commandments. Love the Lord your God with all your heart. And love your neighbor as you love yourself.
The ten commandments encompass that very thing. Are we to disavow those? Thou shalt not steal. Murder. Take the Lord's name in vain. Etc...

Up to the Book of Revelation we read that the Sabbath, this well after Jesus returned to the father, was observed and by the Apostle John on the isle of Patmos.
How is it argued to be something wrong, that we observe God's Sabbath on the day he designed for us to? We Gentiles, or Christians, are grafted into the olive tree an are nourished by its root. Ezekiel 37 & Romans 11.

And how does someone condemn resting on the Bible's Sabbath day, per those scriptures, and worship God in church on a Sunday? Thinking that much better and more in keeping with God's will?
They can't.

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Gal 3: 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.”

9 What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator does not mediate for one only, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, [f]kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

Its sad people want to go back to the tutor.

I have to say that I wish people would get over the Sabbath issue. Colossians 2:16 settled the issue as far as I am concerned. I would like to see a discussion on the 9th commandment, which gets violated constantly on this forum. Not too many seem to care what they say about other believers. I have news for you. Both old and new testaments warn against slander. We will give an account for every careless word that we speak. When we speak the truth, it needs to be in love, not because we love to stick it to others.

Yes, it was established at creation. I imagine that people were keeping the Sabbath long before there even was a Jew. What makes you think that God didn't share with Adam His intent on Sabbath worship? The law given at Sinai/Horeb didn't establish the Sabbath, it said remember the Sabbath. God made the seventh day holy and man cannot make it unholy.

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The original Christians (followers of Christ) were more like messianic jews today. They believed in, followed, and taught the law and commandments just like the Messiah did... and continued this long after his death. This includes the Sabbath. If you read the entire commandment... Exodus 20 verses 8-11 it tells us we are not to work on this day. A little history research will show how these original followers of Christ were brutally forced into giving up the sabbath day as well many other of The Most High God's instructions on how to live (law). Many of God's laws may have been given to the Israelites, but also had to be kept by the stranger if they wanted to live amongst the chosen. The original Christians being forced to give up the sabbath, holy days, and other laws and adopt the pagan practices at the time, played a huge role in creating what we now know as modern day Christianity.

The Messiah coming to "fulfill" the law (Mat 5:17) is often interpreted as a change to the law and furthermore concluded that this change takes place with his death. The word "fulfill" there should literally be translated "to make full or complete". How did he come to make the law complete? By teaching us how the law was SUPPOSED to be kept. The law was never the problem. The problem was mankind not able to keep the law correctly. E.G. The Pharisees adding and taking away from the laws with their own traditions. So the Messiah came to make the law complete by being our role model for the law. This is how he is literally the "word made flesh". The "Word" is "what the Father says"... The Messiah is a physical representation of what the Father says... A.K.A. word made flesh. If we follow the Messiah correctly, we will by default be keeping his Father's laws (instructions). With this understanding we don't have to try to excuse away the next two verses (Mat 5:18-19) that clearly state that the law is to be here until heaven and earth pass and the severity of teaching otherwise.

Many people seem to be confusing the law with the penalties for sin (breaking the law). The Messiah did not change the speed limit or take down any of the signs.... he only paid one big speeding ticket for us. His death did not alter or remove any laws, what it did was pay the penalty for us breaking the laws and gave us a renewed covenant (contract).... a second chance. This second chance is our "grace".

I know this original post was about the sabbath, but this all falls in the same box to me. When I say "the law", I'm speaking of all instructions from the Creator.... From "Be fruitful and multiply"... to the Sabbath... the holy days... the mosaic law, etc. Of course all of the law does not apply to all people. Some law was specific for priests, some for men, some women, some only for a specific place and/or time.... However if the instruction was to keep it throughout the generations forever, than the Messiahs death was not meant to change that.

Yah Bless

From the many posts I have seen from him, The user ID he chose does not fit.

better to study the actual gospel, to understand that SDA is one of the 4 major cults

The Four Major Cults book is outdated. Today, there is Mainline SDA who are saved by Grace through Faith, believe in the Trinity and so on.
They keep the Sabbath out of Love for Christ.

There are independent SDA groups that still deny the Trinity and depend on keeping the law for salvation.

I posted the mainline SDA statement of faith. Follow the links to learn more about what they teach about Jesus.

https://www.asitreads.com/blog/2017/9/21/were-seventh-day-adventist-pioneers-arians-or-semi-arians

http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/trinity/TrinityWhidden.htm

that is patently not true. the confusion with keeping the law with an emphasis on the 4th commandment is ongoing as recent (within the last 3 days or so) posts in this thread from SDA members indicate

the lie that we believe there are no more commandments continues in order to create emphasis on the law, when the emphasis should be on being a new creation in Christ. if and when grace is mentioned, it is in response to someone objecting to the emphasis on law keeping.

Christians who actually understand the law as it was given and the fact that it was a SHADOW of the perfect salvation through Christ, are accused of being sinners etc. Sabbath keepers are one confused lot of people and do not understand who it is they are actually supposed to follow

better to study the actual gospel, to understand that SDA is one of the 4 major cults