There Will Be No Future Millennium On This Earth, A False Teaching Of Man

I don’t see this chronologically you seem to so we probably aren’t going to agree but that’s cool with me no issue I see revelation as a lot of overlapping visual information not a chronologically ordered book



If your asking do I agree Satan will be loosed for a short time near the return of Christ to earth ? Yes I certainly do believe that part or if I believe Satan was bound because he led the world astray ? Yep I do . im not sure what you are asking

but like I said of your looking at revelation as a chronologically ordered book we aren’t going to agree on much of it

Generally, the term replacement theology creates a lot of negative emotions among many Christians.

If you want to hold on to that doctrine, a more acceptable term to use might be "fulfillment theology", as explained here https://rts.edu/resources/what-are-some-misconceptions-about-covenant-theology/

(Inheritance Theology)

The Church has "Inherited" The Promises, Through Faith In The Finished Work Of Jesus Christ On Calvary

Galatians 3:26-29KJV
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

You agreeing with my point?

You will closely note in Rev 20:3 below Satan is bound from "Specifically" (Deceiving The Nations) the scripture clearly interprets this in Rev 207-8 Below, and that is (Deceive The Nations) to battle

Many misinterpret (Deceive The Nations) as being all evil is bound on earth, this is (False)

Revelation 20:1-8KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

I dont really know your point, however the Church has inherited Israel

The term (Replacement Theology) was developed by those withing dispensationalism in Christian Zionism
That falsely teach (Dual Covenant Theology) that is God has two covenants, one with the Church, and one with Israel, a false teaching

There is one covenant between God and man, the finished work on Calvary

Basically you believe the church is now Israel. If you don't want to call that replacement theology, then call it fulfilment theology.

Well, the promiss for the Millenium is at first for the nation of Israel. And this has not fulfilled till today. So it will be in Future.
If you dont believe that, no Problem. It will comes as the Lord has said, and not as we think.

There is no promise of a Millennium on this earth at the return of Jesus Christ, it's a false teaching of man that will assist in seating the future Antichrist, who will appear in Jerusalem, proclaiming to be Messiah returned to the Jews

As God's word "Clearly Teaches" below, Jesus Christ returns (Then Cometh The End) Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory, The Eternal Glorified Body Is Received, At This Last Day Resurrection And Changing

Your Millennial Kingdom On Earth Is "Gone", In Light Of God's Presented Words Of Truth Below, "Gone"

Will You Rebel Against The Clear Words Of God?

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not the start of a Millennium on earth,with mortal humans running around, death is swallowed up in victory, eternity begins

(Then Cometh The End)

1 Corinthians 15:21-24 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Then pleas explaine the OT promisses for the nation of Israel. And the 144000 (12000 from every tribe of Israel) in the book of revealation.
I believe the promisses are literal. And have no reason to misstrust the word of God.

I fully believe 144,000 will be saved and sealed and added to the Church, the Church is the Israel of God, not those of ethnic Israel, (Dual Covenant Theology) is a false teaching

There is one covenant between God and man, the shed blood upon Calvary

Roman's 9:6-8KJV
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

The Church represents the twelve tribes

James 1:1KJV
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

What OT Promises, please post a specific claim?

This post looks like it was written by someone in grade 3. It doesn't even make sense.

yeah I didn’t say all evil was bound in earth at all

Satan is bound for a time , while he is bound the beast is doing his work on earth by his will

“And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:3-4‬ ‭

right so Satan is a heavenly spiritual being he isn’t physical he’s a spiritual being. He sets out to make war against the saints but the one that actually carries it out is the beast who is made in Satans image . So the war Satan makes with the saints is carried out like this by the beast who Satan gave his seat and authority to make the war

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-2, 4, 6-7‬ ‭

If you notice the dragons presence disappears from scripture just as the beast rises up in his same image on the earth . Satan doesn’t do physical things he’s an evil spirit to work evil on earth he has to work through men willing to serve his will ( the beast)

Satan himself isn’t in revelation from chapter 12 until near the end but the beasts are operating his agenda while he’s bound

he is bound from heaven that’s where everything is settled earth is in spiritual chaos. So you have this situation going on

“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.

Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

In heaven the kingdom is established but in earth people have to overcome the devils kingdom to enter Gods kingdom Satan has launched a war on Christians

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and those people in this world are these folks who must overcome the world the church past present and future

“Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


The beast is the earthly operator of Satans Will whether Satan is in a pit doesn’t make any difference on earth that’s a spiritual prison it’s not physical either , his servant the beast is the one on earth ruling in his will

Satan making war is the reason the beast rises in his image and carries out the war against the saints while he was bound

you actually have that backwards the church was added to Israel it’s what the gospels about Israel and Gentiles being saved in the same covenant

“How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭3:3, 5-6‬ ‭

Gentiles were made to be partakers of the promise to Abraham and his descendants

what you are seeing in revelation is that unification of the ot Jews and nt Gentiles so you first see the Israelites and then you see those of all nations included in revelation we’re seeing the two covenants come together

“Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:3-4, 9-10, 14-17‬ ‭


You see the ot people of God the 144000 and then you see the Gentiles included when the gospel was sent to all nations to gather then into the kingdom of heaven

notice how they are serving God in his temple ?

“And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬

it’s the church both Jew and gentile who are the priests of God and Christ

“Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

No problem broski

I just wanna see where you're at! The way I take revelation is I dont know how I take revelation. Guess you could say im PANMILLENNIAL, however it pans out, works for me!

What do you believe the FIRST RESURRECTION is about in Rev 20:4?

Do you see Revelation 20:4 as happening when Christians die and go to heaven and rule and reign from there then? Or how do you see Revelation 20:4-6?

yes brother I’m not claiming to know anything either lol so
I’m with you I am only here to discuss and like your saying get other thoughts and views and try to figure out exactly where I’m at myself with understanding it

honestly I think all of us are ever learning and growing by design we probably will Never know a lot until we’re made complete but I believe pursuing him is found in pursuing understanding of his word that’s just my own place and position in my own walk with him we grow as we pursue the face of Christ

my Position on the first resurrection I would just share much of the same scripture I have in this post and believe for. My part that the first resurrection is when a person believes the gospel and is baptized for remission of sins that includes them into the church . Together with the martyrs and ot saints. All believers . But I think some miss this part our new bodies are made for heaven not earth again

We pass through the natural first and we have a body made for the earth but the resurrection gives us a body for the kingdom in heaven

“So also is the resurrection of the dead.

It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory:

it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.

There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:42-44, 46-49‬ ‭

We’re going to be raised in a heavenly body made for a heavenly existence until the restoration of earth in the end I believe that’s the first resurrection the people in the kingdom they don’t have to be raised from the grave for jidgement we accepted the gospel now and we’re given life and passed from death already


What I’m mean is Jesus never said we would die , wait a long time and then be resurrected that’s Old Testament promise . if we believe he was telling us stuff like this mart had thought her brother was going to be raised after the end like most Jesus responded to her like this

“ Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

‭‭John‬ ‭11:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬


this is not something you are taught elsewhere in ot scripture or epistles only the gospel makes statements like this or this it’s the word of life or “book of life “ in revelation

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”

‭‭John‬ ‭8:51‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Or this

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

only Jesus is able to say things like that and only a believer understands or can understand those who hear what he said and believe like Peter

“What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

..Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.”

‭‭John‬ ‭6:62-63, 68-69‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I believe that this man is part of the first resurrection

only Jesus could tell a man facing certain death in mere moments a man who believed the gospel of the kingdom he has heard this

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”

‭‭Luke‬ ‭23:43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The simplest way for
Me is to say it’s the same thing as being born again it means we died and have been raised up into a new life in Christ and we are going to heaven until this day when heaven and earth come together again

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;

and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And

I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1-5‬ ‭

I believe the people of the first resurrection are reigning in heaven with Christ until then and the new earth comes forth after the judgement of the world so the first resurrection is accomplished by faith and includes martyrs who died for faith the ot saints of faith and the church I think it’s depfferent from the final resurrection of the dead if we believe we’re not part of that group facing condemnation the last day we’ve already been raised from death

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

second death and that judgement has no power over repentant believers salvation is from the judgement of the dead

Yes, Revelation 20:4-6 Are those that die "Before" the second coming, they enter the Non-Literal 1,000 years, it is taking place currently

1,000 years is not literal, and is seen in the Lords spiritual realm of no earthly time, one day is a thousand years (No Time)

2 Peter 3:8 below is showing the reader, there is no time in the Lords spiritual realm seen in Revelation 20:1-6, be not ignorant

As Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lords Spiritual, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

There Is No Physical Kingdom On Earth, With Mortal Humans Present As Millennialism Teaches, Its A Fabricated Fairy Tale, Don't Be Deceived.

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

From the verse you provided it does state that the Devil (Satan) is bound in a bottomless pit. Unless it could be found in scripture where the bottomless pit actually is I would not conclude either that he is bound on earth. I closely noted this in Rev 20:7-8 so we are in agreement on this one point.