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I'm also asking because:

How does a preacher who Preach's about The Grace of God, state that God reject's people for certain sin's?

Also, my question's are based on The Scripture.

If satan is a professional deceiver, and he has blinded the mind's of unbeliever's, then they are deceived and unaware of what they are doing, and based on Paul's verse, are rejected by God. I don't see how that is fair or resonable, in context of The Biblical Doctrine, in that Christ came to set the captive's free, or those who have had their mind's blinded by the devil.

There are so many thing's I'm reading lately that are literally driving me nutt's.

I don't understand how someone who's a professional at getting people to wind up in hell, satan, is allowed to roam the earth and blind the mind's of people, and God is going to reject them for being supernaturally , basically hypnotized by the devil, while not doing anything to draw them to Him.

I don't understand anymore.

I'm also getting frustrated because:

1. I was abused my whole life, had no time to heal, and have been dealing with real demon's attacking me and trying to make me believe their doctrine's. I'm still angry about a lot of thing's that happened.

I'm in no way perfect, and I'm currently trying to survive my life.

I don't understand how I go from abused, to being angry, not having any time to emotionally recover, feel nothing but hatred for being abused 3 sperate way's, and then reading that if I for once in my Life have a job where I'm making money, feel overly convicted that because I hate my abuser, and want to live my life making money to buy a home God reject's me.
Like Ephesians 6 says, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness from the devil.

Will the devil lay traps out for us, cleverly disguised as seemingly naturally-occuring predicaments and happenings? Perhaps.

But we can take on the full Armor of God as our spiritual defense. The word of God is our sword. Like Jesus who fended off the devil in the wilderness using the word of God, we can do the same. When the devil comes, stand up, loud and proud, and quote scripture.

Read Ephesian 6.

For now some short and simple scriptures to memorize for your quoting needs are:

Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

And above all else, pray to God. He will help you. Trust, believe, obey Him.
 

JaumeJ

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#22
I'm also asking because:

How does a preacher who Preach's about The Grace of God, state that God reject's people for certain sin's?

Also, my question's are based on The Scripture.

If satan is a professional deceiver, and he has blinded the mind's of unbeliever's, then they are deceived and unaware of what they are doing, and based on Paul's verse, are rejected by God. I don't see how that is fair or resonable, in context of The Biblical Doctrine, in that Christ came to set the captive's free, or those who have had their mind's blinded by the devil.

There are so many thing's I'm reading lately that are literally driving me nutt's.

I don't understand how someone who's a professional at getting people to wind up in hell, satan, is allowed to roam the earth and blind the mind's of people, and God is going to reject them for being supernaturally , basically hypnotized by the devil, while not doing anything to draw them to Him.

I don't understand anymore.

I'm also getting frustrated because:

1. I was abused my whole life, had no time to heal, and have been dealing with real demon's attacking me and trying to make me believe their doctrine's. I'm still angry about a lot of thing's that happened.

I'm in no way perfect, and I'm currently trying to survive my life.

I don't understand how I go from abused, to being angry, not having any time to emotionally recover, feel nothing but hatred for being abused 3 sperate way's, and then reading that if I for once in my Life have a job where I'm making money, feel overly convicted that because I hate my abuser, and want to live my life making money to buy a home God reject's me.
Almosst all who claim to believe our Lord, Jesus-Yeshua, overlook the teaching from Him that there is only one sin that could be unforgivable, the being the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit. As one who believes in the need and dthe actuality of our Maker's forgiving all who repent of sin, no mattr what else, I cannot hold sin against anyone, nor would I ever have the desire to do sos.

We are free to believe in spite of others who have unusual beliefs, leanings and teachings.l
 
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Anonymous, I saw your message and was planning to respond very much along the lines of what others on this thread have mentioned. I am truly sorry for the anguish you clearly feel. Know that questioning is OK because questioning leads to growth. As you ask your questions make sure you do so from a foundation that God loves you and God wants the absolute best for you. Things that happen in this life are not fair or right. That is what we mean when we say we live in a fallen world. The presence of those things that are counter to what God designed and intends in no way means that God doesn't exist. As you struggle through your questions I commend you for your host seeking questions and also encourage you to pick up the many books and online discussions from leading apologists for the Christian faith who will help you understand your questions. And, know that you will never have all of your questions answered this side of heaven but there are enough answers to help you in your journey.
 

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I just feel bad because now I'm seeking out pleasure. It's all I can think about. And I'm trying to resist something that I feel is overwhelming me.

Well you said many things and i can't address them all but i will cut through the chase for you :).

The issue is not the issue. Let look at some things you said that are key to your torment.



here are somePost #1:
  • I'm upset and I'm trying to understand something.
  • started burning out, from being afraid of going to hell.
  • spent the last 8 hour's asking God for forgiveness, passing in and out of sleep.
  • This is a literal contradiction, with almost the entirety of scripture.
  • Paul also said thing's that were extremely confusing, such as anyone who sin's is of the devil,
The issue is not the issue. You have already formulated a false narrative about the word of God having contradictions in most all of scriptures. That is not true. You are sinning and suffering from condemnation and are trying to justify your sin, which is causing torment and the devil is telling you have done the unforgivable because you do not feel you are forgiven. WHY do you feel that way?


it's simple You have not trusted God or placed your faith in what His word says. GOD said "

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.


This is a promise from God to us in His word IF you believe it you will have what God said.
the only thing that is preventing God from doing what He said He would do is lack of faith. We can't please God without faith. Those who come to HIM MUST Believe.



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  • Also, my question's are based on The Scripture.
  • I don't see how that is fair or resonable, in context of The Biblical Doctrine,
  • I was abused my whole life, had no time to heal, and have been dealing with real demon's attacking me

One is long suffering and he is merciful. IF being fair means I ask for God to forgive me and I still live and do what I know God said do not do there is no forgiveness. We must repent and turn away from the sin that offends God and tell God how much I love doing the sin and ask HIM to set you free. BUT it is going to take repenting, surrendering and receiving by faith.

One must separate from and draw near to God. We want forgiveness but still hang around the very things that God said not only DO NOT DO but stay away from!. We like to play with fire then are shocked when we get burned.
 

presidente

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now my question, is , Jesus said God will basically forgive all thing's except blasphemy of The Holy Spirit, and here Paul is saying that God won't forgive people in the last days who are
The KJV rendition of Matthew 12:31 says that 'All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." That's how the translators rendered it. The KJV says the love of money is the root of all evil. Another translation says the root of all kinds of evil. We may want to consult some language resources on this.

Paul also said thing's that were extremely confusing, such as anyone who sin's is of the devil, and those who are of God don't sin,
That was John in I John you are thinking of.

and then said that he wish's he was'nt sinning, basically, in another verse, and can't bring himself to do what God command's, by stating, I do the Thing's I don't want to do, while then stating, that anyone who attempt's to receive salvation under the law is cursed, and not to live by the law but by grace.
My understanding of Romans 7 is that the chapter describes the case of being under the law. Romans chapter 8 describes being under grace.
 
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Like Ephesians 6 says, we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness from the devil.

Will the devil lay traps out for us, cleverly disguised as seemingly naturally-occuring predicaments and happenings? Perhaps.

But we can take on the full Armor of God as our spiritual defense. The word of God is our sword. Like Jesus who fended off the devil in the wilderness using the word of God, we can do the same. When the devil comes, stand up, loud and proud, and quote scripture.

Read Ephesian 6.

For now some short and simple scriptures to memorize for your quoting needs are:

Psalm 23:4
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

And above all else, pray to God. He will help you. Trust, believe, obey Him.
If it were only seemingly. I can't really tell anymore. I'm torn between certain situation's that no one can relate to that I'm expieriencing.

After watching this and Doing this, my life changed.


I'm trying to understand WHAT happened.
I posted before that, I came to the conclusion that you must be filled with The Holy Spirit because of what occured with the Apostle's at pentacaust.

After I said this prayer, everything in my life changed, and one thing I began to pick up on, that happened so often and frequently was expieriencing observing three-digit numbers in a repeating sequence. It's not something I'm imagining, and although it sound's vague I was curious why:

For Instance, when I get sent a letter and I see the Number 111, or when I buy Something and I see the Number 333, or 444, or when I go somewhere and I Order Something and the person I meet is Wearing 222, or when I get a message at 2:22, or when I pick up a delivery and on the paperwork the first number is 222, or when someone know's on my door in the morning asking for money at 4:44, or when I got hit by a truck and woke up right before it happened at 4:44, or whenever my phone Ring's with The Alarm that I didn't set at 7:21, right before Something Happens.

My problem with this, is today I typed ppp, and almost lost my marble's because ppp, in witchraft, which is part of The Study that I did to expose religion's is the number 666.

My Curiosity with these number's is that I wanted to Understand Why;

1. I was observing them, and noticing them,
And.
2. Why they were alway's appearing. I read online, when I did some research that they are reffered to as angel number's.

My concern, is that after I did what it said to in the video I could Speak in tongue's, I also fealt a strong need to Spread The Gospel and wasn't afraid to, at all, unlike before when I was doing it where I would get jittery and scared.

I Realized also after I had Said it, I became Posessed by a actual Person, I could feel someone living inside of me.

Now this person, who may be God, Taught me thing's I know for a fact, No one on planet Earth know's about AT ALL. He taught me:

1. Where to Find written Record of Jesus Christ'S Ressurection and He Taught me everything there is to know about religion, Specifically that all religious symbol's are variation's and depiction's of baphomet.

There were some expierience's that I've Kept Trying to understand and I'm Cautious because of what It Say'S in The Scripture in Hebrew's 6, that if anyone return's to religion they are condemned, after they have been brought to the knowledge of the Truth.

Having been posessed before, this time was much different. I know what it's like to be posessed by a demon, I'm having hard time's Even Understanding what it's Like being Posessed by God.

When I Finished Writing a book, that Prove's Jesus is God and that all religion is satanism, it seemed like the devil lost it's mind and started to try to ruin my life everyday. I kept on trying to be nice to people, who I ran into that would freak out when I was around.

With What the Spirit Was Teaching Me, I came to the conclusion, that, the devil doesn't try to expose himself, but then I thought, what if what I was Taught about religion was an attempt to get me to believe another doctrine and I can't tell. I can't Tell if this was a miscalculation on whatever Posessed me, or If I'm over Thinking Thing's.

I've Started to expierience an awareness of thing's that aren't common to people. Some day's I like it, other day's I fear it, because I get concerned something else could have happened. Also, it help's me. I'm Very Protected.

Message's have been conflicting lately, though, and when I say message'S, it'S like two people, are saying something different. one says repent or hell, The Other Say'S I'M Special and to stop worrying.

For Instance, Today I received a message, and it said:

You're doing Great, basically, and the second message said, God didn't Blame the rock Cain used to kill Abel.

so I get mega-worried about what's Going on.
The Consistent message is to Trust God. yet, thing's keep on happening and people keep on helping me, who I don't know if they are good. They always appear whenever they help me with the number's: 111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777, 888, 999, and recently, 000.

now because of all of this, I smoke like a chimney, and Certain message'S are very clear, as they are directed at me, literally, directed at me.

Also, I have had So many out of Body expierience's that it worrie's me, what I gather is being called in The Spirit and Shown thing's. I don't Have a problem with out of body Expierience's because you can be called in the spirit. It's different when you practice something to do it. I don't practice witchraft so, I'm confused as to why it's happening.

The First Time it Happened, I met God and freaked out and got kicked out of Heaven, from what I gather, not because of anything but my doubt. It was Exceptionally Frightening, to be in The Presence of God.

The second time it happened I'm not explaining what happened.

The Third Time it Happened I met a giant spirit, and it was a very tall women. she said something so completely strange I had no Idea How to respond, and told me she sent me to earth to Spread The Gospel, which I rebuked.

I started assuming that maybe satan can do thing's that are similar to God.

I don't think it was an angel, but I had a similar expierience meeting someone In The flesh that shared reaemblence to her, with specific trait's that everyone was afraid of, when this person approached me in a crowd of people, glowing.

I Have Had Many other Expierience'S Especially with Dove's recently. One Flew in front of me in a crowd of people, and stayed in front of me for a second and then flew over my head.

I have also met people who I assume are from the devil, constantly asking me for money, who had strange power's which I recorded. One of them disappeared after I at first denied to give her money.

Then I prayed to Jesus to give me a second chance, and she reappeared on the other side of the parking lot.

I can't tell if it's solely God, or both God and satan bothering me, but I can tell satan is one of the idiot's giving me problems.

My Curiosity with all of this is, is I Can't Compare my Expierience'S with anything In The Bible, Except by Comparison of How thing's are described in The Bible.

maybe I pissed the devil off, because I destroyed it's career and now it's hell bent on deceiving me. I'm Just trying to make Sure I'm not being deceived and because NO one can tell who The spirit's are, much Less Test Them in these different Circumstance's, I'm making sure God didn't come to hate me at some point and condemn me.

I Love Jesus, But I'M also an outrageous sinner, and A lot of this has been burning me out. Whenever I Think I Have figured it out, it get'S really confusing, Especially because of what I know About religion.

I smoke a lot Lately, and I know God Is Extremely Displeased, on top of all of this I keep on having dream's that are wild.

I'm starting to wonder if the devil is sending people to be nice to me because The book that's about to come out is going to screw him.

I thought a lot and figured, if this Spirit that is inside of me wasn't God, it could easily stop my heart and with me Going Full Commando on the devil with a book, I Wrote.

I Just Want To Make Sure I See Jesus When I Die.

I'm just Scared, because Everything in my Life Seem's to be happening According To A Plan, Which is Cool. My phone also ding's a lot whenever I'm Researching Stuff or what not.

Sometime's I think, that God Posessed me and the devil is Just trying to confuse me, but I'm anything but Holy. I'M not Sure if You Can Be Possessed by God and Require A Lot Of Maintenance.

I just Know I'm Going To Die one Day and Stand Before The God I Met In Heaven, and That, freak's me out.

I also had an out of body expieriences about the end of the world, and I wound up in hell.

Sometime's I think it's because of this, that another spirit may be pretending to be God in my Life, and it's irreversible, but then I think, if that were True, Who Gave me The Spiritual Expierience In The First Place?

I Can'T tell.

sometime'S I Feel like maybe the devil just use's the fact he's a spirit to deceive people, but I Prohibit Myself From Saying Anything Because I Don'T want to Blaspheme God.

I'M Sure It's God Someday'S, but my fear is that if I'm wrong Either way, I'M Screwed.
 
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I Also Have Been seeing lately sign's that say " super ego" with the number's 666. This Could be Interpreted as:

1. You're doing the wrong thing and you have a super ego, this is satanic, or,
2. It's satan trying to provoke me.

I Have No Idea. And then I worry About Blabbing, maybe Everything Was Fine, and Then I'M Blabbing and that's going to make God Destroy me. Sometime's I Wonder If I'M Suppose To Keep These ThinG'S secret.
 
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If it were only seemingly. I can't really tell anymore. I'm torn between certain situation's that no one can relate to that I'm expieriencing.

I cannot really say for sure what it means by seeing the numbers repeating, but as far as I can tell they might be a sign to you.

Numerology is a thing in the Bible and the Bible was written by people inspired by the Holy Spirit who either wrote under direct influence of God, transcribed what they heard, and recorded what they saw in visions and real life.

My conversion to Christianity was a supernatural experience. So some of what you're describing sounds familiar to me even though I don't feel like here is the place to go into a lot of details.

Let's just say I had my figuritive 40 days in the wilderness where I was tempted by the devil. This is where I learned to recognize who God is and that I belong to Christ.

When I have issues I pray to God and He helps in various ways. I know I am being vague, but that's because I don't really want to get into a lot of details. Let me put it this way: I enjoy my relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in very direct ways.

Pray for wisdom and understanding.

Are you smoking cigarettes? Been there before and I had to quit using nicotine patches, it's difficult but the more we give up on worldly crutches the more we learn new crutches like trusting in Christ.

I believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit so if you ask me you're basically getting a crash course on how your new life will work. You will probably eventually settle into a comfort zone as you acclimate to a Spirit-filled life, but it'll be a rich and fulfilling experience.

Be sure to thank God and praise Him for this. From what I have seen, these kind of gifts aren't common. So enjoy it because you can handle it.

God is no respecter of persons, meaning He doesn't love you more than a Spirit filled Christian who never sees any signs, wonders, or visions.

He loves us all intensely.

Never boast in yourself, boast about the good things God has done. As always, Glory to God!
 

Blik

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I just feel bad because now I'm seeking out pleasure. It's all I can think about. And I'm trying to resist something that I feel is overwhelming me.
Why not simply give up on you trying to handle all these things and simply use the thought (and truth) that God loves you, God has mansions reserved for you in heaven, and all you have to do is accept His forgiveness and put His thoughts in your mind instead of the doubts?

The Lord has even written out truthful thoughts for us to put in our mind, they are written out in scripture. You can choose these thoughts. Your bad dreams are just thoughts and feelings you have allowed yourself to have in your wake time. Say "get behind me Satan" and put the Lord in instead.
 
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I cannot really say for sure what it means by seeing the numbers repeating, but as far as I can tell they might be a sign to you.

Numerology is a thing in the Bible and the Bible was written by people inspired by the Holy Spirit who either wrote under direct influence of God, transcribed what they heard, and recorded what they saw in visions and real life.

My conversion to Christianity was a supernatural experience. So some of what you're describing sounds familiar to me even though I don't feel like here is the place to go into a lot of details.

Let's just say I had my figuritive 40 days in the wilderness where I was tempted by the devil. This is where I learned to recognize who God is and that I belong to Christ.

When I have issues I pray to God and He helps in various ways. I know I am being vague, but that's because I don't really want to get into a lot of details. Let me put it this way: I enjoy my relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in very direct ways.

Pray for wisdom and understanding.

Are you smoking cigarettes? Been there before and I had to quit using nicotine patches, it's difficult but the more we give up on worldly crutches the more we learn new crutches like trusting in Christ.

I believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit so if you ask me you're basically getting a crash course on how your new life will work. You will probably eventually settle into a comfort zone as you acclimate to a Spirit-filled life, but it'll be a rich and fulfilling experience.

Be sure to thank God and praise Him for this. From what I have seen, these kind of gifts aren't common. So enjoy it because you can handle it.

God is no respecter of persons, meaning He doesn't love you more than a Spirit filled Christian who never sees any signs, wonders, or visions.

He loves us all intensely.

Never boast in yourself, boast about the good things God has done. As always, Glory to God!
Oh! This Made Me So Happy To Hear! I Get To See Jesus When I Die! WooHoo! I Feel like Dancing! The Happiness and it was Informative About a problem I have! Jesus ! I'M a come steal you out of Your Heaven!
 
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I cannot really say for sure what it means by seeing the numbers repeating, but as far as I can tell they might be a sign to you.

Numerology is a thing in the Bible and the Bible was written by people inspired by the Holy Spirit who either wrote under direct influence of God, transcribed what they heard, and recorded what they saw in visions and real life.

My conversion to Christianity was a supernatural experience. So some of what you're describing sounds familiar to me even though I don't feel like here is the place to go into a lot of details.

Let's just say I had my figuritive 40 days in the wilderness where I was tempted by the devil. This is where I learned to recognize who God is and that I belong to Christ.

When I have issues I pray to God and He helps in various ways. I know I am being vague, but that's because I don't really want to get into a lot of details. Let me put it this way: I enjoy my relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in very direct ways.

Pray for wisdom and understanding.

Are you smoking cigarettes? Been there before and I had to quit using nicotine patches, it's difficult but the more we give up on worldly crutches the more we learn new crutches like trusting in Christ.

I believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit so if you ask me you're basically getting a crash course on how your new life will work. You will probably eventually settle into a comfort zone as you acclimate to a Spirit-filled life, but it'll be a rich and fulfilling experience.

Be sure to thank God and praise Him for this. From what I have seen, these kind of gifts aren't common. So enjoy it because you can handle it.

God is no respecter of persons, meaning He doesn't love you more than a Spirit filled Christia:love::love::love:n who never sees any signs, wonders, or visions.

He loves us all intensely.

Never boast in yourself, boast about the good things God has done. As always, Glory to God!
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