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Are you talking about recent alleged alien abductions ? If so I think I heard that Christians don't experience that phenomena and also that some think it is pure demonic and non alien .. I also believe some are mk-ultra mind control induced experiments .. I have a testimony or two of demonic encounters but some I'd never give them on a message board .. Ever heard of Satanist Army lt col Michael Aquino ?

I believe God created Adam as full grown adult. Gen 2 states God placed Adam in the garden to dress and to keep it (vs 15). I don't think an infant or a child would be able to tend to a garden. Also, Adam named all the cattle, and the birds, and all the beasts (vs 20). Again ... not a task for an infant or child.





I believe it has to do with what God told satan in Gen 3:15:

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


satan knew at that point that there would be a seed of the woman.

The offspring of the woman = the Lord Jesus Christ.

If satan could prevent the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ, he'd protect himself.

That's why I believe satan went after the daughters of men (Gen 6:4) ... because God told satan it would be the seed of the woman.

Refreshing attitude. Sincerity is a necessity when it comes to seeking the intended interpretation. I would point first to the hermeneutic rule of immediate context. Which is also the more natural form of reading comprehension whether one has ever heard of hermeneutics or not.

When you read the statement the sons of god saw that the daughters of men were fair.. .and you notice no explanation is given as to who these sons of god are, your first natural reaction is to wonder if you missed something that was already said about the sons of god. So you look backwards in the text and find in it 4:26,. Calling themselves By the name of the Lord is an acceptable translation which is found in your KJV marginal notes.

If one calls themselves By the name of the Lord, another form of that would be calling themselves sons of God or Children of God, or the People of God in some manner or fashion. They found it necessary to identify themselves as sons of God because there was another civilization on the East of Eden under Cain that were not godly. This is the most natural interpretation that one could achieve without human assistant, if all they had was a bible and no previous teaching on the subject.

Give someone a bible and a 10th grade reading comprehension skill and put them on a desert Island and the idea of fallen angels will never enter their minds but they are likely to discover 4:26 when attempting to see where they missed the reference to the sons of God in 6.

Now leaving the immediate context approach and moving on to the theological context (other scriptures in the bible that support the theological idea) If it is true that God declares his plan to bring a flood right after the statement that the sons of god saw the daughters of men and married all which they chose, that the godly fell away to the ungodly until their was not a righteous man left of the camp called the sons of God but Noah alone, this theological concept of the godly falling away by the corruption of the influence of the world is a theme that continues throughout the bible all the way to Jesus words to the 7 churches in revelation.

This is a very strong theme in the bible. The counsel of Balaam who taught Balak to send the Moabite women (prostitutes) into the camp of Israel which caused God to judge them with a plague. The story of Sampson and Delilah, Pretty much every time Israel backslid into idolatry involved harlotry, Solomon's backsliding from his foreign wives and concubines, again and again we see the lesson, into the New Testament we hear the continuous call to Come out from among her (spiritual Babylon, worldly harlotry) and be separate. The letter to the 7 churches, the call to repentance throughout the book of Revelation calling out a people who would be separate and not bow the knee to the image or take the mark or drink of the cup of the harlot. These are all symbolic of holiness and separation from the world.

Another method of interpretation is to see if this verse of scripture Gen 6:2 concerning the sons of god are referenced by any other writer in another book of the bible and commented on. I believe Jesus is indeed commenting on the sons of god taking wives of the all which they chose from the daughters of men when he said when he comes again it will be as in the days of Noah they will be marrying and giving in marriage. Jesus is referring to people and not fallen angels and therefore if he is referencing this verse in Gen then he is commenting on it as people and we have his interpretation to stand on and this should end all controversy on the matter.
Also Jesus said angels neither marry or are given in marriage, and to suggest that he meant only angels who had not fallen has no authority and seems to be a desperate attempt to cling to a erroneous interpretation thoroughly defeated.

I’ve never heard of the Satanist Army or that dude. I’ve done extensive research into Satanism and Luciferians. Also I find the Sumerian accounts of the Anunnaki very interesting. I wonder if Moses was aware of some of the stories because there are similarities. I don’t discount the MK-ultra angle. That’s also some crazy stuff. There have been many accounts of people stopping abductions by telling them to leave in Christ’ name. Some say the entities disappear. I’m not sure if that is a sleep paralysis thing. One night I woke up and couldn’t move and felt there was a demon near me. Scariest thing ever. I found out later that many imagine demons during sleep paralysis. I’m not sure whether evil spirits cause paralysis or paralysis conjures evil imagination.

I know it isn’t a popular belief but it doesn’t make sense to me why the snake was introduced as more crafty than the other beasts of the field, if it wasn’t actually a snake. Otherwise it would make more sense to introduce the snake as Satan. Also, does Satan crawl on the ground and eat dirt. The snakes bite heels and humans crush their heads. Aside from a metaphorical reference to the serpent, I just don’t think that it’s related.

Are you talking about recent alleged alien abductions ? If so I think I heard that Christians don't experience that phenomena and also that some think it is pure demonic and non alien .. I also believe some are mk-ultra mind control induced experiments .. I have a testimony or two of demonic encounters but some I'd never give them on a message board .. Ever heard of Satanist Army lt col Michael Aquino ?

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made ...


Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

They were created by the Most High which IMO makes them sons of the Most High.

I'm not sure but I think Jesus would disagree.

John 8

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I know it isn’t a popular belief but it doesn’t make sense to me why the snake was introduced as more crafty than the other beasts of the field, if it wasn’t actually a snake. Otherwise it would make more sense to introduce the snake as Satan. Also, does Satan crawl on the ground and eat dirt. The snakes bite heels and humans crush their heads. Aside from a metaphorical reference to the serpent, I just don’t think that it’s related.

Jesus is talking to the pharisee leadership, not understanding what that has to do with fallen ones from the heavens?

Moses was taught the paganism of Egypt. He learned from their most learned teachers Egyptian cosmology, the answers to the big questions that generations of Egyptians had developed.

A very subtle explanation of the nature of reality and time was found in their creation myth.

The ouroboros.

Moses was taught the paganism of Egypt. He learned from their most learned teachers Egyptian cosmology, the answers to the big questions that generations of Egyptians had developed.

A very subtle explanation of the nature of reality and time was found in their creation myth.

The ouroboros.

Because you said that the only requirement for being a child of God is to be created by God.. Why would angels that reject God be called children of God but not humans who reject God?

Wouldn't it be great if Jesus commented on Gen 6:2 so we could know how He interpreted the sons of god?

Well, it turns out he did when he said ..in Matt 24:37-38 ...
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Now every scholar interprets Jesus saying here as referring to MEN marrying in the days of Noah before the flood. THE ONLY SCRIPTURE that references this activity of marrying in the days of Noah is Gen 6:2. Therefore Jesus and his disciples understood this as MEN and not angels. This should end the controversy but it won't.

I don’t know Why people think God would punish mankind for angels being wicked... never made any sense to me.
That along with Hebrews 1, and the fact Giants were already knocking about when this marrying was taking place, (and after the flood there were still giants in scripture too of course) makes it pretty clear cut to me.
I can only attribute the lack of common sense and contextual referencing to preachers having read and being convinced by the supposed “book of Enoch”, with its unbiblical and erroneous teachings, rather than using scripture in context to explain the meaning.

Giants in the book of Enoch is in reference to the giants of industry. 3,000 ells is somewhere around 6,000 feet. A mans height averaging somewhere around 6 feet makes a giant in the book of Enoch 1,000 times that of an average individual. This 1,000 X comparison between the titans of industry to an ordinary individual has often used. You just have to understand the metaphors. For another example: In Enoch VII:5 man is described sinning against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish.... Now in times past some understood this to mean having sex with these creatures; and as such seemed ludicrous to be having sex with reptiles and fish, it was one of the reasons why the book of Enoch was removed the Bible. When, however, you take into account that the data in the book of Enoch is for and about the final generation who go through the great tribulation (Enoch I:1-2), then the sinning against the Animalia mentioned can be realized in reference to genetic modification that science is currently undertaking on numerous creatures.

Giants in the book of Enoch is in reference to the giants of industry. 3,000 ells is somewhere around 6,000 feet. A mans height averaging somewhere around 6 feet makes a giant in the book of Enoch 1,000 times that of an average individual. This 1,000 X comparison between the titans of industry to an ordinary individual has often used. You just have to understand the metaphors. For another example: In Enoch VII:5 man is described sinning against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish.... Now in times past some understood this to mean having sex with these creatures; and as such seemed ludicrous to be having sex with reptiles and fish, it was one of the reasons why the book of Enoch was removed the Bible. When, however, you take into account that the data in the book of Enoch is for and about the final generation who go through the great tribulation (Enoch I:1-2), then the sinning against the Animalia mentioned can be realized in reference to genetic modification that science is currently undertaking on numerous creatures.

Do you think there were large manufacturing companies before the flood?

There were no giants of industry pre flood, but there were giants among the people. Metaphorical giants, the extremely wealthy and powerful.