I’ve never heard of the Satanist Army or that dude. I’ve done extensive research into Satanism and Luciferians. Also I find the Sumerian accounts of the Anunnaki very interesting. I wonder if Moses was aware of some of the stories because there are similarities. I don’t discount the MK-ultra angle. That’s also some crazy stuff. There have been many accounts of people stopping abductions by telling them to leave in Christ’ name. Some say the entities disappear. I’m not sure if that is a sleep paralysis thing. One night I woke up and couldn’t move and felt there was a demon near me. Scariest thing ever. I found out later that many imagine demons during sleep paralysis. I’m not sure whether evil spirits cause paralysis or paralysis conjures evil imagination.
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I know it isn’t a popular belief but it doesn’t make sense to me why the snake was introduced as more crafty than the other beasts of the field, if it wasn’t actually a snake. Otherwise it would make more sense to introduce the snake as Satan. Also, does Satan crawl on the ground and eat dirt. The snakes bite heels and humans crush their heads. Aside from a metaphorical reference to the serpent, I just don’t think that it’s related.
Where do you think the giants came from? Why would sons of earthly parents with different theological beliefs be “mighty men of renoun”. Does this story not echo in every origin story? If it wasn’t for every major civilization having tales speaking of the same thing I wouldn’t be so convinced. Besides the marrying thing isn’t a legitimate argument. The word is used for female.
as wives
נָשִׁ֔ים (nā·šîm)
Noun - feminine plural
Strong's Hebrew 802: 1) woman, wife, female 1a) woman (opposite of man) 1b) wife (woman married to a man) 1c) female (of animals) 1d) each, every (pronoun)
There wasn’t some ceremonial legal relationship necessarily.
as wives
נָשִׁ֔ים (nā·šîm)
Noun - feminine plural
Strong's Hebrew 802: 1) woman, wife, female 1a) woman (opposite of man) 1b) wife (woman married to a man) 1c) female (of animals) 1d) each, every (pronoun)
There wasn’t some ceremonial legal relationship necessarily.
The sleep paralysis from what I understand comes from a secretion in the brain during rem that paralyses your body so you can't jump up and run into a wall .. Some wake up and can't move or speak until it wears off in a few seconds .. I've had it happen to me and it is frightening until you wake up completely .. No demonic activity imo
Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made ...
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
To me in Eden it’s sounds like the introduction of a snake. In Rev 20
serpent
ὄφις (ophis)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3789: Probably from optanomai; a snake, figuratively, an artful malicious person, especially Satan.
This sounds like Satan is metaphorically being called a snake. Regardless, I think the story is allegorical. All of the contents of the story are representations of literal but abstract components.
serpent
ὄφις (ophis)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3789: Probably from optanomai; a snake, figuratively, an artful malicious person, especially Satan.
This sounds like Satan is metaphorically being called a snake. Regardless, I think the story is allegorical. All of the contents of the story are representations of literal but abstract components.
I'm not sure but I think Jesus would disagree.
John 8
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
John 8
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Moses was taught the paganism of Egypt. He learned from their most learned teachers Egyptian cosmology, the answers to the big questions that generations of Egyptians had developed.
A very subtle explanation of the nature of reality and time was found in their creation myth.
The ouroboros.
Because you said that the only requirement for being a child of God is to be created by God.. Why would angels that reject God be called children of God but not humans who reject God?
A very subtle explanation of the nature of reality and time was found in their creation myth.
The ouroboros.
Because you said that the only requirement for being a child of God is to be created by God.. Why would angels that reject God be called children of God but not humans who reject God?
The uroboros is a snake that swallows it's tail. It symbolizes the cyclic nnature of life and time. The turning of one era to the next. When the end is swallowed up by the beginning. This is the cycle of human history repeating itself.. The Egyptions believed this subtle repetition of human history was happening because time was cyclic.
Moses used that snake symbol to communicate the revelation he received from God. He anthropomorphizes the tail into a foot that the head can't swallow but will at the end of the age crush it. History was cyclic because of sin not because of time. Moses revealed that the endless loop of history we were trapped in was due to the endless repetition of sin.
The pagans who understood their mysteries would understand their snake creator god had been exposed as the enemy of God and man.
Moses used that snake symbol to communicate the revelation he received from God. He anthropomorphizes the tail into a foot that the head can't swallow but will at the end of the age crush it. History was cyclic because of sin not because of time. Moses revealed that the endless loop of history we were trapped in was due to the endless repetition of sin.
The pagans who understood their mysteries would understand their snake creator god had been exposed as the enemy of God and man.
I don’t know Why people think God would punish mankind for angels being wicked... never made any sense to me.
That along with Hebrews 1, and the fact Giants were already knocking about when this marrying was taking place, (and after the flood there were still giants in scripture too of course) makes it pretty clear cut to me.
I can only attribute the lack of common sense and contextual referencing to preachers having read and being convinced by the supposed “book of Enoch”, with its unbiblical and erroneous teachings, rather than using scripture in context to explain the meaning.
That along with Hebrews 1, and the fact Giants were already knocking about when this marrying was taking place, (and after the flood there were still giants in scripture too of course) makes it pretty clear cut to me.
I can only attribute the lack of common sense and contextual referencing to preachers having read and being convinced by the supposed “book of Enoch”, with its unbiblical and erroneous teachings, rather than using scripture in context to explain the meaning.
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Giants in the book of Enoch is in reference to the giants of industry. 3,000 ells is somewhere around 6,000 feet. A mans height averaging somewhere around 6 feet makes a giant in the book of Enoch 1,000 times that of an average individual. This 1,000 X comparison between the titans of industry to an ordinary individual has often used. You just have to understand the metaphors. For another example: In Enoch VII:5 man is described sinning against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish.... Now in times past some understood this to mean having sex with these creatures; and as such seemed ludicrous to be having sex with reptiles and fish, it was one of the reasons why the book of Enoch was removed the Bible. When, however, you take into account that the data in the book of Enoch is for and about the final generation who go through the great tribulation (Enoch I:1-2), then the sinning against the Animalia mentioned can be realized in reference to genetic modification that science is currently undertaking on numerous creatures.
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