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EleventhHour

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oyster67 said:
They do go together, and one can lose their first love.

Rev 2
2:4 Nevertheless I have [somewhat] against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
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Not a reference to losing salvation, the candle stick is not salvation.
 
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DorothyMae said:
Untrue and it is you who oppose me. I oppose the teaching. You accuse me of moral evil. I say your understanding is incorrect. You say I’m am antagonist which is character, not understanding. Totally different fruit. That is my point. The fruit of OSAS is as you demonstrate.
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Dotty, you and I have had this conversation so many times in the past on that old defunct thread. I form my opinion of your threads from what you said then and what you say now. The fruit of OSAS has nothing to do with what I observe from what you say.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Same....and some on this site that know the truth coddle them, refuse to oppose them, and bag us out when we stand up against their deceitful false gospels
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Yes they do. I will never do such. I have always called a spade a spade and I will not back down now. The Word of God speaks for itself.
 
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EleventhHour said:
They have indeed ... and by the looks of the posts on this thread recently, I am pretty sure it will only be a short while before there is only a remnant left.

This conviction and contending for truth comes from God of this I am convinced. I am so thankful for your firm stand.:)
Amen.
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I am not eloquent with words but I will never defend, coddle, give a kumbya to falseness
 
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jackrosie said:
I am not sure on this....but I find eternally grateful knowledgeable in scripture....I have been told that if I am continually disobedient..knowingly it can end in death....?
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Everyone dies. It happens to both the just and the unjust. They just say this to prop up their Calvinistic OSAS beliefs. They think/say God will kill you before He lets you "throw the keys in the lake".
 
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jaybo said:
1 John 5:13 reads, " I have written these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. "

This verse is in the present tense. It says nothing about continuing to believe.
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You are correct. My bad. I was thinking of John 15....

John 15
15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
 
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jackrosie said:
You should have seen what he wrote about me and my relationship with God.

He found it gut wrenching and disturbing....the gushing love I have for the Lord....

The Lord needs to soften his heart is all I can say...so pray for him in Jesus Name....Amen!
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I have. As I said, the fruit is very telling.
 
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jackrosie said:
I am not sure on this....but I find eternally grateful knowledgeable in scripture....I have been told that if I am continually disobedient..knowingly it can end in death....?
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There is no example nor scripture that God kills a man to save him from hell. If we choose to jump off, He doesn’t tie us down. Pursue? Yes. Kill? no
 
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