"Not by works" - false!
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I get the impression you are a new Christian. I admire your zealousness. We all have different gifts.
Aside: If you are a new Christian, I suggest reading Systematic Theology books... they put the pieces of the puzzle together.
Aside2: A lot of CRAPPY Christian literature out there. (maybe most of it) Hopefully, you stumble across something good.
Aside: If you are a new Christian, I suggest reading Systematic Theology books... they put the pieces of the puzzle together.
Aside2: A lot of CRAPPY Christian literature out there. (maybe most of it) Hopefully, you stumble across something good.
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ROFL .... no ... I saw where you asked @DBurrage to define terms in Heb. 26:10 ... I had done same time previously. He said he wouldn't, then said he would. It is so confusing. I give him "A" for effort.
What do they say ... Americans and Brits are separate by a common language .... more than that in this case
What do they say ... Americans and Brits are separate by a common language .... more than that in this case
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is that not the reason this thread was started -- to look for & engage in bitter arguments?
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Yes, I am God.
(No, really I'm not God)
You should be concerned about your life because your life is the litmus test of whether you are saved or not.
Saving faith in a person is evidenced by the presence of the Spirit in a changed/ changing life.
No change of life means no salvation is present to effect that change.
(No, really I'm not God)
You should be concerned about your life because your life is the litmus test of whether you are saved or not.
Saving faith in a person is evidenced by the presence of the Spirit in a changed/ changing life.
No change of life means no salvation is present to effect that change.
hmm or maybe i'm thinking of another "believe" verse.
for my part i believe that you need to actually believe.
i think a lot of this 'bitter argument' could be weeded out if we stopped referring to people who really don't actually believe as "believers"
is that not the reason this thread was started -- to look for & engage in bitter arguments?
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Yes, I do have idea, because John told us how we can 'have an idea' who is born again and who is not:
7 The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.
8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil...
9No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister."
1 John 3
Why have so many people in the church decided John is wrong about this?
7 The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous.
8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil...
9No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
10This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister."
1 John 3
Why have so many people in the church decided John is wrong about this?
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