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Act 15:14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Act 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
The tabernacle of David was rebuilt 2000 years ago so that the remnant of the Jews and all the Gentiles might seek after the Lord in the tabernacle of David.
Act 15:15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
Act 15:16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
Act 15:17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
The tabernacle of David was rebuilt 2000 years ago so that the remnant of the Jews and all the Gentiles might seek after the Lord in the tabernacle of David.
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If one were to consider that the Day of the Lord has its starting point in heaven when the Lamb receives the scroll, then no man could possibly know that this has occurred therefore fulfilling the requirement for the coming as a "thief in the night". Furthermore this fulfills the requirement that people will be saying "peace and security" (they certainly wouldn't be in the thick of the tribulation).
I also believe that the times and the seasons for both the Rapture and the Day of the Lord (which IMO begins in heaven and includes the 7 year tribulation and the Second Coming itself) will be evident to those who are watching carefully per Daniel 12. However the day in the hour will not be known for either of these incidences.
At this present time this is my own position.
BTW, The exact term Day of the Lord is noted I think 19 times in Scripture. Many of the times it is used in the Old Testament it refers to a local and earlier judgment, and some for end time judgment. All New Testament references are to end time judgment.
Also see below. The Day of the Lord encompasses the entire millennium as well.
2 Pet 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
I also believe that the times and the seasons for both the Rapture and the Day of the Lord (which IMO begins in heaven and includes the 7 year tribulation and the Second Coming itself) will be evident to those who are watching carefully per Daniel 12. However the day in the hour will not be known for either of these incidences.
At this present time this is my own position.
BTW, The exact term Day of the Lord is noted I think 19 times in Scripture. Many of the times it is used in the Old Testament it refers to a local and earlier judgment, and some for end time judgment. All New Testament references are to end time judgment.
Also see below. The Day of the Lord encompasses the entire millennium as well.
2 Pet 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Jewish Belief is a REBUILDING, of the TABERNACLE OR TEMPLE OR EVEN A SYNAGOGUE HAD TO BE BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION OF THE OLDER ONE. Here is prove, the Synagogue, was NEVER rebuild in Corinth, because they could not identify the correct BUILDING, after the MAJOR Earthquake utterly destroyed that Synagogue. About 5 years ago a archaeologist turned over a stone, that looked like only a rubble stone from the destroyed wall, and inscribed on it was SYNAGOGUE OF THE HEBREWS.
THIRD TEMPLE - Has to be built on the site of Solomon's TEMPLE
Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”
So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.
In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.
The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.
On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.
See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.
The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.
Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:
NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017
[video=youtube;kJpuw5-33y0]
Matthew 24:2 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”
So how was that Prophecy about the TEMPLE from JESUS, FULFILLED to the LETTER? Contrary to popular belief, Solomon's Temple was not on what the JEWS today call the TEMPLE MOUNT; and there is a lot more to the Story than just the damage done by the ROMAN'S in 70 A.D.
In addition to the Roman destruction of the TEMPLE, the Macabean King Simon, ordered the real TEMPLE MOUNT in what is now called the City of David, but was then at the time of Christ, the original location of Jerusalem; TURNED INTO A ROCK QUARRY. He did that because of what the Romans did in 70 A.D., saying even the Rock base was therefore DEFILED on the original Temple Mount. Macabeans removed several meters of rock and used it to fill in the Valley to the South, making a fairly level road coming in from the South to Jerusalem. That distance from the Southern Wall of Fort Antonia to the TEMPLE is only a difference of about 400 ft. to the south of what is today the city limits of Jerusalem.
The Dome of the Rock is in the CENTER of Fort Antonia.
On the Left is the South Wall in the Southeast corner, that is the property line for Jerusalem, South of that Wall is now the City of David. The silverish domed Mosque would be the Southwest corner of Fort Antonia, in this lower Picture.
See that big tree in the Olive grove left of the silver colored steel dome, it may be the one that is the oldest Olive Trees in Israel. At least I think that is the tree they were talking about. It would be about the Northwest corner of the TEMPLE OUTER WALL. See that turn in the road going to the right towards that big tree. To the left of that intersection is good size building with what looks like a bell tower. THAT BUILDING MAY BE SITTING ON THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Somebody has to move the road, however the Palestinians have no claim to land south of that silver dome.
The Archeologists, and one of them is an Israelite, have been seeking an audiance with the Israeli Government, and the Temple Institute, and getting NO RESPONSE. They think it is because they have a very big, bitter pill to swallow, in admitting they have been praying at the WRONG WALL all these years. The Archeologists are convinced they can PROVE the Whaling Wall is actually only part of Fort Antonia.
Here is the Video the Archeologists recently put on You Tube:
NEWEST VIDEO Proving the TEMPLE WAS IN THE
CITY OF DAVID, South Just Outside JERUSALEM.
Video published June 18th, 2017
[video=youtube;kJpuw5-33y0]
Logically explain to me how rebuilding a temple that ALWAYS pointed to Jesus makes sense after He's already come and gone, and come back in judgement of the covenant breakers, and already declared He has achieved "all" victory? Can you not see some incoherence in this idea? I think it's a kill shot for any doctrine with these things taking place in the future. But obviously not to so many out here. Anyway what are your thoughts on this, in order for the temple to be Gods He has to command us to build Him a dwelling place, then of course actually dwelling in it like before. You have to address the idea that we are not to add to scripture at all, even if an angel of light comes declaring another gospel, or even the disciples themselves, right? So can we even get a "new revelation" from God to have one built? Do you not agree God has to command His temple built to be "His temple"? Or does man have the authority to name it that? Have you ever even considered this? I know I never did until He showed me. It doesn't mesh.
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What came first the Tabernacle or the Temple ? ? ?
Is the Tabernacle a House of GOD ? ? ?
Is the Temple a House of GOD ? ? ?
Is LOGIC ever applied in Scripture ? ? ?
Genesis 28:16-18 (HCSB)
16 When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he said, “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I did not know it.”
17 He was afraid and said, “What an awesome place this is! This is none other than the house of God.
This is the gate of heaven.”
18 Early in the morning Jacob took the stone that was near his head and set it up as a marker.
He poured oil on top of it 🖜
Is it Logical that they are talking about OLIVE OIL ? ? ?
Who INSPIRED ALL SCRIPTURE ? ? ?
Would it be LOGICAL, if they Set Up the TABERNACLE, while they BUILD THE TEMPLE Right next door to the north of the Tabernacle ? ? ?
Not sure what happened, it would only post the one TREE PICTURE, and none of the rest ? ? ?
Do you really believe the BIBLE ? ? ? I Hope So, or you will not understand my explanation.
You do understand that Mortals of the Earth, will carrying on life on this planet, for another 1000 years, after CHRIST RETURNS, and the ETERNAL STATE, (New Heaven our Atmosphere, and New Earth symbolizes), actually begin.
HE is KING OF THE EARTH, while We are in HEAVEN in the NEW DWELLING PLACE HE as built for us in HIS Father's House, don't You ? ? ?
Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.
GOD is not finished with ISRAEL.
The Seventh Week of Daniel happens immediately AFTER the Church-Age Ends. That is the final seven years with man ruling this earth.
YES, I believe that Chart is Almost 100% accurate. The Temple WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT to fulfill GOD's Prophecies. However, I believe a 4th TEMPLE will be needed, and it could even be built by Christ Himself.
Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 “Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.
1 Chronicles 16:15-18 (HCSB)
15 Remember His covenant forever— the promise He ordained for a thousand generations, {Symbolism for FOREVER.}
16 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
17 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree, and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
18 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”
Psalm 105:8-11 (HCSB)
8 He remembers His covenant forever, the promise He ordained for a thousand generations—
9 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
10 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
11 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”
Psalm 79:5 (ESV)
5 How long, O LORD? Will you be angry forever? Will your jealousy burn like fire?
Psalm 103:7-10 (HCSB)
7 He revealed His ways to Moses, His deeds to the people of Israel.
8 The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and rich in faithful love.
9 He will not always accuse ⌊us⌋ or be angry forever.
10 He has not dealt with us as our sins deserve or repaid us according to our offenses.
Ezekiel 16:42 (HCSB)
42 So I will satisfy My wrath against you, and My jealousy will turn away from you. Then I will be silent and no longer angry.
Zechariah 14:16-19 (NKJV)
16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
NOW that above Prophecy is in the Millennial Kingdom, when CHRIST IS KING OVER ALL THE EARTH, and DAVID is resurrected to be PRINCE OF ISRAEL. WIKIPEDIA: During the existence of the Jerusalem Temple, it was one of the Three Pilgrimage Festivals (Hebrew: שלוש רגלים, shalosh regalim) on which the Israelites were commanded to perform a pilgrimage to the Temple. End.
Mortals of this world will have a Fourth Temple to worship GOD in, while WE DON'T NEED one, as OUR RESIDENCE WILL BE IN THE HEAVENLY NEW CITY JERUSALEM.
Ezekiel 37:24-28 (HCSB)
24 My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances, and keep My statutes and obey them.
25 “They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live in it forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. I will establish and multiply them and will set My sanctuary among them forever.
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 When My sanctuary is among them forever, the nations will know that I, Yahweh, sanctify Israel.”
QUOTE: EZEKIEL
37:26 covenant of peace. Cf. 34:25. This is the New Covenant in full force. Israel has never yet been in a state of perpetual salvation peace; this awaits fulfillment in the future kingdom of the Messiah who is the Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6). an everlasting covenant. The everlasting nature of the Abrahamic (cf. Gen. 17:7), Davidic (2 Sam. 23:5), and new (Jer. 50:5) covenants are joined together in the redeemed who experience the millennial kingdom “forever” (used four times in vv. 25-28). The Hebrew word for “everlasting” may refer to a long time or to eternity.
The MacArthur Bible Commentary. END QUOTE.
QUOTE:
And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore
[Ezek. 37:28].
This is going to come to pass -- it has not yet come to pass.
"When my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." There will be a millennial temple for an eternal temple down here on the earth. In Revelation where it speaks of there not being a temple, it is referring to the New Jerusalem, which is where the church will be and which is not to be upon this earth. The eternal home of the children of Israel will be upon this earth, and God's temple will be in their midst. Although there is no doubt that Israel is the subject of Ezekiel, and especially of chapters 37 -- 39
Thru The Bible with J. Vernon McGee. END QUOTE.
GENTILE BELIEVER'S, never do become part of ISRAEL. GRAFTED IN DOES NOT MEAN WE BECOME ISRAEL. PROOF IS IN NATURE ITSELF, because almost every English Walnut tree in California are GRAFTED in to Black Walnut Trunks. The Black Walnut Trunks, have deeper roots, and are more disease resistant, and more bug and worm proof than English Walnuts. YES they are nourished by the Black Walnut Trunk, BUT THEY NEVER PRODUCE BLACK WALNUTS. So Gentile Believer's REMAIN Gentile Believers. AND the 144,000 are ALL JEWS, and have been sealed from harm, to REPOPULATE ISRAEL, as none of the REST will be left. The believers will be Martyred, and the Rest will be KILLED in the war between JESUS and the NATIONS.
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Zechariah 14:2-4 (NIV)
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
Do you really believe the BIBLE ? ? ? I Hope So, or you will not understand my explanation.
You do understand that Mortals of the Earth, will carrying on life on this planet, for another 1000 years, after CHRIST RETURNS, and the ETERNAL STATE, (New Heaven our Atmosphere, and New Earth symbolizes), actually begin.
HE is KING OF THE EARTH, while We are in HEAVEN in the NEW DWELLING PLACE HE as built for us in HIS Father's House, don't You ? ? ?
Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.
GOD is not finished with ISRAEL.
The Seventh Week of Daniel happens immediately AFTER the Church-Age Ends. That is the final seven years with man ruling this earth.
YES, I believe that Chart is Almost 100% accurate. The Temple WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT to fulfill GOD's Prophecies. However, I believe a 4th TEMPLE will be needed, and it could even be built by Christ Himself.
Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 “Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.
1 Chronicles 16:15-18 (HCSB)
15 Remember His covenant forever— the promise He ordained for a thousand generations, {Symbolism for FOREVER.}
16 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
17 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree, and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
18 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”
Psalm 105:8-11 (HCSB)
8 He remembers His covenant forever, the promise He ordained for a thousand generations—
9 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
10 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
11 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”
Psalm 79:5 (ESV)
5 How long, O LORD? Will you be angry forever? Will your jealousy burn like fire?
Psalm 103:7-10 (HCSB)
7 He revealed His ways to Moses, His deeds to the people of Israel.
8 The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and rich in faithful love.
9 He will not always accuse ⌊us⌋ or be angry forever.
10 He has not dealt with us as our sins deserve or repaid us according to our offenses.
Ezekiel 16:42 (HCSB)
42 So I will satisfy My wrath against you, and My jealousy will turn away from you. Then I will be silent and no longer angry.
Zechariah 14:16-19 (NKJV)
16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
NOW that above Prophecy is in the Millennial Kingdom, when CHRIST IS KING OVER ALL THE EARTH, and DAVID is resurrected to be PRINCE OF ISRAEL. WIKIPEDIA: During the existence of the Jerusalem Temple, it was one of the Three Pilgrimage Festivals (Hebrew: שלוש רגלים, shalosh regalim) on which the Israelites were commanded to perform a pilgrimage to the Temple. End.
Mortals of this world will have a Fourth Temple to worship GOD in, while WE DON'T NEED one, as OUR RESIDENCE WILL BE IN THE HEAVENLY NEW CITY JERUSALEM.
Ezekiel 37:24-28 (HCSB)
24 My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances, and keep My statutes and obey them.
25 “They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live in it forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. I will establish and multiply them and will set My sanctuary among them forever.
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 When My sanctuary is among them forever, the nations will know that I, Yahweh, sanctify Israel.”
QUOTE: EZEKIEL
37:26 covenant of peace. Cf. 34:25. This is the New Covenant in full force. Israel has never yet been in a state of perpetual salvation peace; this awaits fulfillment in the future kingdom of the Messiah who is the Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6). an everlasting covenant. The everlasting nature of the Abrahamic (cf. Gen. 17:7), Davidic (2 Sam. 23:5), and new (Jer. 50:5) covenants are joined together in the redeemed who experience the millennial kingdom “forever” (used four times in vv. 25-28). The Hebrew word for “everlasting” may refer to a long time or to eternity.
The MacArthur Bible Commentary. END QUOTE.
QUOTE:
And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore
[Ezek. 37:28].
This is going to come to pass -- it has not yet come to pass.
"When my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." There will be a millennial temple for an eternal temple down here on the earth. In Revelation where it speaks of there not being a temple, it is referring to the New Jerusalem, which is where the church will be and which is not to be upon this earth. The eternal home of the children of Israel will be upon this earth, and God's temple will be in their midst. Although there is no doubt that Israel is the subject of Ezekiel, and especially of chapters 37 -- 39
Thru The Bible with J. Vernon McGee. END QUOTE.
GENTILE BELIEVER'S, never do become part of ISRAEL. GRAFTED IN DOES NOT MEAN WE BECOME ISRAEL. PROOF IS IN NATURE ITSELF, because almost every English Walnut tree in California are GRAFTED in to Black Walnut Trunks. The Black Walnut Trunks, have deeper roots, and are more disease resistant, and more bug and worm proof than English Walnuts. YES they are nourished by the Black Walnut Trunk, BUT THEY NEVER PRODUCE BLACK WALNUTS. So Gentile Believer's REMAIN Gentile Believers. AND the 144,000 are ALL JEWS, and have been sealed from harm, to REPOPULATE ISRAEL, as none of the REST will be left. The believers will be Martyred, and the Rest will be KILLED in the war between JESUS and the NATIONS.
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Zechariah 14:2-4 (NIV)
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.
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