THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

cv5 · May 8, 2020

VCO said:

Not sure what happened, it would only post the one TREE PICTURE, and none of the rest ? ? ?

Do you really believe the BIBLE ? ? ? I Hope So, or you will not understand my explanation.

You do understand that Mortals of the Earth, will carrying on life on this planet, for another 1000 years, after CHRIST RETURNS, and the ETERNAL STATE, (New Heaven our Atmosphere, and New Earth symbolizes), actually begin.

HE is KING OF THE EARTH, while We are in HEAVEN in the NEW DWELLING PLACE HE as built for us in HIS Father's House, don't You ? ? ?

Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.

GOD is not finished with ISRAEL.

The Seventh Week of Daniel happens immediately AFTER the Church-Age Ends. That is the final seven years with man ruling this earth.

YES, I believe that Chart is Almost 100% accurate. The Temple WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT to fulfill GOD's Prophecies. However, I believe a 4th TEMPLE will be needed, and it could even be built by Christ Himself.

Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 “Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.

1 Chronicles 16:15-18 (HCSB)
15 Remember His covenant forever— the promise He ordained for a thousand generations, {Symbolism for FOREVER.}
16 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
17 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree, and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
18 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”

Psalm 105:8-11 (HCSB)
8 He remembers His covenant forever, the promise He ordained for a thousand generations—
9 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
10 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
11 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”

Psalm 79:5 (ESV)
5 How long, O LORD? Will you be angry forever? Will your jealousy burn like fire?

Psalm 103:7-10 (HCSB)
7 He revealed His ways to Moses, His deeds to the people of Israel.
8 The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and rich in faithful love.
9 He will not always accuse ⌊us⌋ or be angry forever.
10 He has not dealt with us as our sins deserve or repaid us according to our offenses.

Ezekiel 16:42 (HCSB)
42 So I will satisfy My wrath against you, and My jealousy will turn away from you. Then I will be silent and no longer angry.

Zechariah 14:16-19 (NKJV)
16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

NOW that above Prophecy is in the Millennial Kingdom, when CHRIST IS KING OVER ALL THE EARTH, and DAVID is resurrected to be PRINCE OF ISRAEL. WIKIPEDIA: During the existence of the Jerusalem Temple, it was one of the Three Pilgrimage Festivals (Hebrew: שלוש רגלים‎, shalosh regalim) on which the Israelites were commanded to perform a pilgrimage to the Temple. End.

Mortals of this world will have a Fourth Temple to worship GOD in, while WE DON'T NEED one, as OUR RESIDENCE WILL BE IN THE HEAVENLY NEW CITY JERUSALEM.

Ezekiel 37:24-28 (HCSB)
24 My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances, and keep My statutes and obey them.
25 “They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live in it forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. I will establish and multiply them and will set My sanctuary among them forever.
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 When My sanctuary is among them forever, the nations will know that I, Yahweh, sanctify Israel.”

QUOTE: EZEKIEL

37:26 covenant of peace. Cf. 34:25. This is the New Covenant in full force. Israel has never yet been in a state of perpetual salvation peace; this awaits fulfillment in the future kingdom of the Messiah who is the Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6). an everlasting covenant. The everlasting nature of the Abrahamic (cf. Gen. 17:7), Davidic (2 Sam. 23:5), and new (Jer. 50:5) covenants are joined together in the redeemed who experience the millennial kingdom “forever” (used four times in vv. 25-28). The Hebrew word for “everlasting” may refer to a long time or to eternity.
The MacArthur Bible Commentary. END QUOTE.

QUOTE:
And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore
[Ezek. 37:28].

This is going to come to pass -- it has not yet come to pass.

"When my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." There will be a millennial temple for an eternal temple down here on the earth. In Revelation where it speaks of there not being a temple, it is referring to the New Jerusalem, which is where the church will be and which is not to be upon this earth. The eternal home of the children of Israel will be upon this earth, and God's temple will be in their midst. Although there is no doubt that Israel is the subject of Ezekiel, and especially of chapters 37 -- 39

Thru The Bible with J. Vernon McGee. END QUOTE.

GENTILE BELIEVER'S, never do become part of ISRAEL. GRAFTED IN DOES NOT MEAN WE BECOME ISRAEL. PROOF IS IN NATURE ITSELF, because almost every English Walnut tree in California are GRAFTED in to Black Walnut Trunks. The Black Walnut Trunks, have deeper roots, and are more disease resistant, and more bug and worm proof than English Walnuts. YES they are nourished by the Black Walnut Trunk, BUT THEY NEVER PRODUCE BLACK WALNUTS. So Gentile Believer's REMAIN Gentile Believers. AND the 144,000 are ALL JEWS, and have been sealed from harm, to REPOPULATE ISRAEL, as none of the REST will be left. The believers will be Martyred, and the Rest will be KILLED in the war between JESUS and the NATIONS.

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Zechariah 14:2-4 (NIV)
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

You are absolutely correct and I absolutely agree with you. There are such a bulk of Scriptures In support of this, that it is quite impossible to simply post them on a message board like this! The volume is just that large.

cv5 · May 8, 2020

tourist said:

The Jews, Romans and leaders all had their hand in the murder of the Prince of Life. If justice was being served Pilate should have exonerated Him

cv5 · May 8, 2020

VCO said:

Not sure what happened, it would only post the one TREE PICTURE, and none of the rest ? ? ?

Do you really believe the BIBLE ? ? ? I Hope So, or you will not understand my explanation.

You do understand that Mortals of the Earth, will carrying on life on this planet, for another 1000 years, after CHRIST RETURNS, and the ETERNAL STATE, (New Heaven our Atmosphere, and New Earth symbolizes), actually begin.

HE is KING OF THE EARTH, while We are in HEAVEN in the NEW DWELLING PLACE HE as built for us in HIS Father's House, don't You ? ? ?

Zechariah 14:9 (HCSB)
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the earth—Yahweh alone, and His name alone.

GOD is not finished with ISRAEL.

The Seventh Week of Daniel happens immediately AFTER the Church-Age Ends. That is the final seven years with man ruling this earth.

YES, I believe that Chart is Almost 100% accurate. The Temple WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT to fulfill GOD's Prophecies. However, I believe a 4th TEMPLE will be needed, and it could even be built by Christ Himself.

Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 “Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.

1 Chronicles 16:15-18 (HCSB)
15 Remember His covenant forever— the promise He ordained for a thousand generations, {Symbolism for FOREVER.}
16 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
17 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree, and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
18 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”

Psalm 105:8-11 (HCSB)
8 He remembers His covenant forever, the promise He ordained for a thousand generations—
9 ⌊the covenant⌋ He made with Abraham, swore to Isaac,
10 and confirmed to Jacob as a decree and to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
11 “I will give the land of Canaan to you as your inherited portion.”

Psalm 79:5 (ESV)
5 How long, O LORD? Will you be angry forever? Will your jealousy burn like fire?

Psalm 103:7-10 (HCSB)
7 He revealed His ways to Moses, His deeds to the people of Israel.
8 The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger and rich in faithful love.
9 He will not always accuse ⌊us⌋ or be angry forever.
10 He has not dealt with us as our sins deserve or repaid us according to our offenses.

Ezekiel 16:42 (HCSB)
42 So I will satisfy My wrath against you, and My jealousy will turn away from you. Then I will be silent and no longer angry.

Zechariah 14:16-19 (NKJV)
16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

NOW that above Prophecy is in the Millennial Kingdom, when CHRIST IS KING OVER ALL THE EARTH, and DAVID is resurrected to be PRINCE OF ISRAEL. WIKIPEDIA: During the existence of the Jerusalem Temple, it was one of the Three Pilgrimage Festivals (Hebrew: שלוש רגלים‎, shalosh regalim) on which the Israelites were commanded to perform a pilgrimage to the Temple. End.

Mortals of this world will have a Fourth Temple to worship GOD in, while WE DON'T NEED one, as OUR RESIDENCE WILL BE IN THE HEAVENLY NEW CITY JERUSALEM.

Ezekiel 37:24-28 (HCSB)
24 My servant David will be king over them, and there will be one shepherd for all of them. They will follow My ordinances, and keep My statutes and obey them.
25 “They will live in the land that I gave to My servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They will live in it forever with their children and grandchildren, and My servant David will be their prince forever.
26 I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant with them. I will establish and multiply them and will set My sanctuary among them forever.
27 My dwelling place will be with them; I will be their God, and they will be My people.
28 When My sanctuary is among them forever, the nations will know that I, Yahweh, sanctify Israel.”

QUOTE: EZEKIEL

37:26 covenant of peace. Cf. 34:25. This is the New Covenant in full force. Israel has never yet been in a state of perpetual salvation peace; this awaits fulfillment in the future kingdom of the Messiah who is the Prince of Peace (Isa. 9:6). an everlasting covenant. The everlasting nature of the Abrahamic (cf. Gen. 17:7), Davidic (2 Sam. 23:5), and new (Jer. 50:5) covenants are joined together in the redeemed who experience the millennial kingdom “forever” (used four times in vv. 25-28). The Hebrew word for “everlasting” may refer to a long time or to eternity.
The MacArthur Bible Commentary. END QUOTE.

QUOTE:
And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore
[Ezek. 37:28].

This is going to come to pass -- it has not yet come to pass.

"When my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." There will be a millennial temple for an eternal temple down here on the earth. In Revelation where it speaks of there not being a temple, it is referring to the New Jerusalem, which is where the church will be and which is not to be upon this earth. The eternal home of the children of Israel will be upon this earth, and God's temple will be in their midst. Although there is no doubt that Israel is the subject of Ezekiel, and especially of chapters 37 -- 39

Thru The Bible with J. Vernon McGee. END QUOTE.

GENTILE BELIEVER'S, never do become part of ISRAEL. GRAFTED IN DOES NOT MEAN WE BECOME ISRAEL. PROOF IS IN NATURE ITSELF, because almost every English Walnut tree in California are GRAFTED in to Black Walnut Trunks. The Black Walnut Trunks, have deeper roots, and are more disease resistant, and more bug and worm proof than English Walnuts. YES they are nourished by the Black Walnut Trunk, BUT THEY NEVER PRODUCE BLACK WALNUTS. So Gentile Believer's REMAIN Gentile Believers. AND the 144,000 are ALL JEWS, and have been sealed from harm, to REPOPULATE ISRAEL, as none of the REST will be left. The believers will be Martyred, and the Rest will be KILLED in the war between JESUS and the NATIONS.

View attachment 216237

Zechariah 14:2-4 (NIV)
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights in the day of battle.
4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.

One point of difference that I would like to make concerning what you have stated:
There will probably be survivors coming through the great tribulation of both Jew and gentile. These will not be among the number of the 144,000 or tribulation saints, they are a separate group of survivors. I say this because of the fact of the sheep and goat judgment noted in Matt 25:31-33.
judgment which occurs on Earth after the second coming of Jesus Christ.

VCO · May 8, 2020

cv5 said:

Not in ISRAEL, that I can see. EVERYONE is HUNTING JEWS, and after the TWO WITNESSES, not a CHANCE that any one of them will take the Mark of the BEAST. There are some JEWS that fled the Country. But all the rest, after HALF THE CITY WENT INTO EXILE, I see no more than the 144,000 SEALED so NO harm comes to them, with the WRATH OF GOD, are the only ones I see in Jerusalem. Maybe Half the 144,000, went into Exile, AND think how many towns will be NUKED, while the worlds Armies marching in, ? ? ?

Hear read it for yourself, and keep in mind ALL JEWS WILL TRY TO DEFEND ISRAEL, so this is just the LEFTOVERS:

Zechariah 14:1-4 (HCSB)
1 A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence.
2 I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.

That is HALF of the remnants in JERUSALEM, not Half of today's population. So I do not see more than 288,000 in JERUSALEM, before they flee into EXILE. How many are LEFT, probably the 144,000. With that LARGE OF AN ARMY attacking, MOST JEWS WOULD HAVE backed up to Jerusalem to launch an all out DEFENSE. Now look at the ONES that STAYED, until the LORD ARRIVED.

Zechariah 14:4-5 (HCSB)
4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
5 You will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. {INTO JORDON} You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him.

Zechariah 14:12-16 (HCSB)
12 This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13 On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
14 Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
15 The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.

No mention of the Survivors from ISRAEL, other than the 144,000.

Revelation 6:3-11 (HCSB)
3 When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!”
4 Then another horse went out, a fiery red one, and its horseman was empowered to take peace from the earth, so that people would slaughter one another. And a large sword was given to him. WWIII
5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” And I looked, and there was a black horse. The horseman on it had a set of scales in his hand. DEATH on a MASSIVE SCALE
6 Then I heard something like a voice among the four living creatures say, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius—but do not harm the olive oil and the wine.” STARVATION
7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!”
8 And I looked, and there was a pale green horse. The horseman on it was named Death, and Hades was following after him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and by the wild animals of the earth.
Sickness, Diseases, Famine, Animals Starving, and continued WAR and BEHEADINGS.
9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the people slaughtered because of God’s word and the testimony they had.
10 They cried out with a loud voice: “Lord, the One who is holy and true, how long until You judge and avenge our blood from those who live on the earth?” ALL MARTYRED SAINTS ARRIVE IN HEAVEN, told more to die by BEHEADING.
11 So a white robe was given to each of them, and they were told to rest a little while longer until ⌊the number⌋ would be completed ⌊of⌋ their fellow slaves and their brothers, who were going to be killed just as they had been.

The Population of ISRAEL IS DROPPING LIKE A ROCK.

And now GOD's Full Wrath will be unleashed on the WORLD. The Martyred Saints are almost COMPLETE, Two Witnesses convert MOST of the REMAINING JEWS and they will be MARTYRED TOO, and then HE COMES THE KING.

Revelation 19:19-21 (HCSB)
19 Then I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and against His army.
20 But the beast was taken prisoner, and along with him the false prophet, who had performed the signs in his presence. He deceived those who accepted the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image with these signs. Both of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
21 The rest were killed with the sword that came from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

The REST were killed, REST OF WHAT? I think it is obvious the REST of the ENEMY COMBATANTS. P0PULATION OF ISRAEL could be 0 at that time.

cv5 · May 8, 2020

VCO said:

Not in ISRAEL, that I can see. EVERYONE is HUNTING JEWS, and after the TWO WITNESSES, not a CHANCE that any one of them will take the Mark of the BEAST. There are some JEWS that fled the Country. But all the rest, after HALF THE CITY WENT INTO EXILE, I see no more than the 144,000 SEALED so NO harm comes to them, with the WRATH OF GOD, are the only ones I see in Jerusalem. Maybe Half the 144,000, went into Exile, AND think how many towns will be NUKED, while the worlds Armies marching in, ? ? ?

Hear read it for yourself, and keep in mind ALL JEWS WILL TRY TO DEFEND ISRAEL, so this is just the LEFTOVERS:

Zechariah 14:1-4 (HCSB)
1 A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence.
2 I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.

That is HALF of the remnants in JERUSALEM, not Half of today's population. So I do not see more than 288,000 in JERUSALEM, before they flee into EXILE. How many are LEFT, probably the 144,000. With that LARGE OF AN ARMY attacking, MOST JEWS WOULD HAVE backed up to Jerusalem to launch an all out DEFENSE. Now look at the ONES that STAYED, until the LORD ARRIVED.

Zechariah 14:4-5 (HCSB)
4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
5 You will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. {INTO JORDON} You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him.

Zechariah 14:12-16 (HCSB)
12 This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13 On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
14 Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
15 The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.

No mention of the Survivors from ISRAEL, other than the 144,000.

Revelation 6:3-11 (HCSB)
3 When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!”
4 Then another horse went out, a fiery red one, and its horseman was empowered to take peace from the earth, so that people would slaughter one another. And a large sword was given to him. WWIII
5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” And I looked, and there was a black horse. The horseman on it had a set of scales in his hand. DEATH on a MASSIVE SCALE
6 Then I heard something like a voice among the four living creatures say, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius—but do not harm the olive oil and the wine.” STARVATION
7 When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!”
8 And I looked, and there was a pale green horse. The horseman on it was named Death, and Hades was following after him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill by the sword, by famine, by plague, and by the wild animals of the earth.
Sickness, Diseases, Famine, Animals Starving, and continued WAR and BEHEADINGS.
9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the people slaughtered because of God’s word and the testimony they had.
10 They cried out with a loud voice: “Lord, the One who is holy and true, how long until You judge and avenge our blood from those who live on the earth?” ALL MARTYRED SAINTS ARRIVE IN HEAVEN, told more to die by BEHEADING.
11 So a white robe was given to each of them, and they were told to rest a little while longer until ⌊the number⌋ would be completed ⌊of⌋ their fellow slaves and their brothers, who were going to be killed just as they had been.

The Population of ISRAEL IS DROPPING LIKE A ROCK.

And now GOD's Full Wrath will be unleashed on the WORLD. The Martyred Saints are almost COMPLETE, Two Witnesses convert MOST of the REMAINING JEWS and they will be MARTYRED TOO, and then HE COMES THE KING.

Revelation 19:19-21 (HCSB)
19 Then I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and against His army.
20 But the beast was taken prisoner, and along with him the false prophet, who had performed the signs in his presence. He deceived those who accepted the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image with these signs. Both of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
21 The rest were killed with the sword that came from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh.

The REST were killed, REST OF WHAT? I think it is obvious the REST of the ENEMY COMBATANTS. P0PULATION OF ISRAEL could be 0 at that time.

It looks like we can agree that there are definitely survivors of the nations. All that I can add is that in my opinion there will be survivors of both the scattered Jews, as well as some of those within the boundaries of Israel, who have made it through the tribulation by some manner or other just as those of the nations have.

Thanks for your input. And a good evening to you.

VCO · May 9, 2020

cv5 said:

i CANNOT PROVE THIS, but with Satan controlling Antichrist, and HIS KNOWN HATRED FOR THE JEWS, I think the order will be given to kill all the Jews you can find.

cv5 · May 9, 2020

VCO said:

Yes indeed there must be Jews who survive the tribulation per Matt 25:31-46.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/ice_thomas/Mat24-25/Mat24-25_Part39.cfm

"Only Jesus mentions the judgment of the nations that will take place when “He will sit on His glorious thrown” (Matthew 25:31) immediately after His second coming to establish His kingdom (Matthew 25:31-46). The dividing process is seen in the judgment of the Gentiles using the analogy of the sheep and goats. The sheep Gentiles are those who have been good to the Jews during the Tribulation, defending them at the risk of their lives, visiting them in prison and feeding them during those desperate times. Those who persecuted them or rejected them will be put on the left side and are known as goats, signifying their rebellion towards God. For this rebellion they “will go away into eternal punishment” (Matthew 25:46).

The fact that the sheep are those who have been good to the Jews during the Tribulation period is an indication they are born again believers in Jesus whose “brethren” they protected and aided (Matthew 25:40). These individuals from among the Gentiles will befriend the Jews because they are “righteous” (Matthew 25:37), meaning they have been made “righteous” by faith in the blood of the Lamb and His subsequent resurrection. The Greek word for righteous is also used of the doctrine of justification by faith (i.e., Christ’s righteousness is imputed to a believer). They are good to the Jews for the same reason. John Walvoord says, “works are presented here, not as the ground of salvation, but as the evidence of it, in the sense ofJames 2:26, where it is declared, ‘Faith without works is dead’; that is, it is not real faith unless it produces works.” 3 The Abrahamic covenant is still in vogue and will be even during the millennium. It should be remembered, Jesus said inMatthew 25:46, that these “sheep,” or believers during the Tribulation, go “into eternal life.”"

VCO · May 9, 2020

cv5 said:

Yes indeed there must be Jews who survive the tribulation per Matt 25:31-46.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/ice_thomas/Mat24-25/Mat24-25_Part39.cfm

"Only Jesus mentions the judgment of the nations that will take place when “He will sit on His glorious thrown” (Matthew 25:31) immediately after His second coming to establish His kingdom (Matthew 25:31-46). The dividing process is seen in the judgment of the Gentiles using the analogy of the sheep and goats. The sheep Gentiles are those who have been good to the Jews during the Tribulation, defending them at the risk of their lives, visiting them in prison and feeding them during those desperate times. Those who persecuted them or rejected them will be put on the left side and are known as goats, signifying their rebellion towards God. For this rebellion they “will go away into eternal punishment” (Matthew 25:46).

The fact that the sheep are those who have been good to the Jews during the Tribulation period is an indication they are born again believers in Jesus whose “brethren” they protected and aided (Matthew 25:40). These individuals from among the Gentiles will befriend the Jews because they are “righteous” (Matthew 25:37), meaning they have been made “righteous” by faith in the blood of the Lamb and His subsequent resurrection. The Greek word for righteous is also used of the doctrine of justification by faith (i.e., Christ’s righteousness is imputed to a believer). They are good to the Jews for the same reason. John Walvoord says, “works are presented here, not as the ground of salvation, but as the evidence of it, in the sense ofJames 2:26, where it is declared, ‘Faith without works is dead’; that is, it is not real faith unless it produces works.” 3 The Abrahamic covenant is still in vogue and will be even during the millennium. It should be remembered, Jesus said inMatthew 25:46, that these “sheep,” or believers during the Tribulation, go “into eternal life.”"

Yes, and the main purpose for the 144,000 is to repopulate ISRAEL, with mortals.

VCO · May 9, 2020

VCO said:

What is significant is this Guy, Really believes this find could be all that they suspect it is, and he is Ze've Orenstein, Director of Int'l Affairs, City of David. He could play a Very important role, in convincing the Israel Antiquities Authority, who would have to approve of this find.

cv5 · May 9, 2020

VCO said:

It's all coming together no doubt about that. Israel in the land, the recapture of Jerusalem and now the absolutely defined location of the Temple. Jesus is coming soon so let us be prepared for this event.

VCO · May 9, 2020

cv5 said:

AND IT ALL IS ORCHESTRATED BY GOD!

Yahshua · May 9, 2020

VCO said:

I've noticed that most times it means the pictures are too big. Now I try to stick with only uploading images that are 300px width & height. Haven't had a problem since

VCO · May 9, 2020

Yahshua said:

That is Strange, I did not KNOW the Internet Servers must set the SIZE limit of pictures individually. I will try to keep them Smaller, because it works fine on my end.

I want to see what Size Limit they have set on your Internet Provider. The Above is 600 px high.
Below is one 700 px wide, and it is one of the Cisterns below Fortress Antonia. Water from Cisterns, CANNOT be used in the TEMPLE, as it has to be LIVING WATER, and that term is defined as water from a River or Spring.

One more Try to enlarge it. Let me know which one show up without you resizing them.
Hear is one that I may be too large. It is of a way to run a bucket down on a rope, to get water. It is 800 px.

JUST IN CASE, hear is another of the First One, that is only 400 px.

Please let me know which ones show up.

The JEWS have a FAVORITE EXPRESSION, "From the ground, the truth will spring forth."
That expression will haunt them, when they finally accept the obvious conclusion, the TEMPLE BELONGS IN THE CITY OF DAVID.

Yahshua · May 9, 2020

VCO said:

I can see them all it seems...and if you didn't get a restriction then i guess at least up to 800px is fine? Idk. I remember trying one that was like 1300px width or so - copied from google images - but CC wouldn't allow it, it had the proper file format too. Oh well..hey at least it works now

Edit: I'm on chrome

VCO · May 9, 2020

Yahshua said:

I will try to remember to resize the picture to 800 px or smaller.

I think that Favorite Expression that From the Ground, the Truth will Spring Forth, may have spawned from this Scripture:

Genesis 4:10 (ESV)
10 And the LORD said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to me from the ground.

VCO · May 10, 2020

KJV1611 said:

LOOK AT WHAT JACOB CALLED THE PLACE, where in his DREAM was the Stairway to Heaven ascending.

Genesis 28:16-18 (HCSB)
16 When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he said, “Surely the LORD is in this place, and I did not know it.”
17 He was afraid and said, “What an awesome place this is! This is none other than the house of God.
This is the gate of heaven.”
18 Early in the morning Jacob took the stone that was near his head and set it up as a marker.
He poured oil on top of it 🖜 {The ROCK he laid his head on.}

Isaiah 2:3 (ESV)
3 and many peoples shall come, and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob, that he may teach us his ways and that we may walk in his paths.” For out of Zion shall go the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

1 Chronicles 6:48 (KJV)
48 Their brethren also the Levites were appointed unto all manner of service of the tabernacle of the house of God.

QUOTE:
5. Now God showed himself pleased with the work of the Hebrews, and did not permit their labors to be in vain; nor did he disdain to make use of what they had made, but he came and sojourned with them, and pitched his tabernacle in the holy house. And in the following manner did he come to it:—The sky was clear, but there was a mist over the tabernacle only, encompassing it, but not with such a very deep and thick cloud as is seen in the winter season, nor yet in so thin a one as men might be able to discern any thing through it, but from it there dropped a sweet dew, and such a one as showed the presence of God to those that desired and believed it.
The Works of Flavius Josephus. END QUOTE.

From earlier videos, I found out the following information.
MOUNT ZION is the House of GOD. Zion is in the City of DAVID, on the Ophel. It was torn down as ROCK QUARRY, in 132 AD, because the ROMANS built a TEMPLE TO JUPITER where the JEWISH TEMPLE once Stood. The ruler of the Jewish State was Prince Simon Bar Kokhba, and he ordered that the TEMPLE MOUNT be TORN DOWN because he considered the bedrock DEFILED because the ROMAN put a PAGAN TEMPLE on the TEMPLE SITE. He used the TEMPLE BEDROCK as ROCK QUARRY for a couple years to build a bridge to give people from the south ACCESS to Jerusalem, effectively lowering what was Mount Zion to ground level. ALMOST EVERYBODY FORGOT ABOUT WHAT happened between 132 - 136 CE or AD, because Prince Bar Kokhba was KILLED and almost everyone in Jerusalem except those that fled into exile.

QUOTE:
The Bar Kokhba revolt (Hebrew: מרד בר כוכבא‎; Mered Bar Kokhba) was a rebellion of the Jews of the Roman province of Judea, led by Simon bar Kokhba, against the Roman Empire. Fought circa 132–136 CE, it was the last of three major Jewish–Roman wars, so it is also known as The Third Jewish–Roman War or The Third Jewish Revolt. Some historians also refer to it as the Second Revolt of Judea, not counting the Kitos War (115–117 CE), which had only marginally been fought in Judea.

The revolt erupted as a result of ongoing religious and political tensions in Judea following on the failure of the First Revolt in 66−70 CE. These tensions were related to the establishment of a large Roman presence in Judea, changes in administrative life and the economy, together with the outbreak and suppression of Jewish revolts from Mesopotamia to Libya and Cyrenaica. The proximate reasons seem to centre around the construction of a new city, Aelia Capitolina over the ruins of Jerusalem and the erection of a temple to Jupiter on the Temple Mount. The Church Fathers and rabbinic literature emphasize governor of Judaea Rufus' role in provoking the revolt.

In 132, a revolt led by Bar Kokhba quickly spread from Modi'in across the country, cutting off the Roman garrison in Jerusalem. Roman Governor Rufus then unsuccessfully engaged the early phase of the uprising. Rufus is last recorded in 132, the first year of the rebellion; whether he died or was replaced is uncertain, but Gargilius Antiques is recorded as the Roman Prefect of Judea during the conflict. Initial rebel victories over the Romans established an independent state of Israel over parts of Judea for over two years, as Bar Kokhba took the title of Nasi ("prince"). Simon bar Kokhba, the commander of the revolt, was regarded by many Jews as the Messiah, who would restore their national independence. This setback, however, caused Roman Emperor Hadrian to assemble a large scale Roman force from across the Empire, which invaded Judea in 134 under the command of Roman General Sextus Julius Severus. The Roman army was made of six full legions with auxiliaries and elements from up to six additional legions, which finally managed to crush therevolt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt END QUOTE.

QUOTE:
The Roman historian Dion Cassius noted that the Christian sect refused to join the revolt. The Jews took Aelia by storm and badly mauled the Romans’ Egyptian Legion, XXII Deiotariana. The war became so serious that in the summer of 134 Hadrian himself came from Rome to visit the battlefield and summoned the governor of Britain, Gaius Julius Severus, to his aid with 35,000 men of the Legion X. Jerusalem was retaken, and Severus gradually wore down and constricted the rebels’ area of operation, until in 135 Bar Kokhba was himself killed at Betar, his stronghold in southwest Jerusalem. The remnant of the Jewish army was soon crushed; Jewish war casualties are recorded as numbering 580,000, not including those who died of hunger and disease. Judaea was desolated, the remnant of the Jewish population annihilated or exiled, and Jerusalem barred to Jews thereafter. But the victory had cost Hadrian dear, and, in his report to the Roman Senate on his return, he omitted the customary salutation “I and the Army are well” and refused a triumphal entry. https://www.britannica.com/biography/Bar-Kokhba-Jewish-leader sEND QUOTE.

QUOTE:
Hadrian hated “foreign” religions and forbade the Jews to perform circumcisions. He appointed Tinneius Rufus governor of Judea. Rufus was a harsh ruler who took advantage of Jewish women. In approximately 132 C.E., Hadrian began to establish a city in Jerusalem called Aelia Capitolina, the name being a combination of his own name and that of the Roman god Jupiter Capitolinus. He started to build a temple to Jupiter in place of the Jewish Holy Temple. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-bar-kokhba-revolt-132-135-ce END QUOTE.

Emperor Hadrian ORDERED NO CIRCUMCISIONS, ORDERED A TEMPLE TO JUPITER BUILT ON THE JEWISH TEMPLE SITE almost completed, And Had ordered JERUSALEM be turned into A PAGAN CITY with all kinds of Pagan Temples. SO THE JEWS REVOLTED! That pushed them over the EDGE.

garee · May 10, 2020

KJV1611 said:

I would offer. No division between the corrupted flesh a Jew or a gentile.(mankind) God purifies the hearts of all nations by a work of his faithfulness. Both (all) bodies of death return to the same corrupted field of clay.

In one way mankind, and not just the Jew where or are the cause for the sufferings unto death . But it was the labor of the father and Son love working as one God that performed the work. The father pouring out the wrath of mankind being revealed from heaven from the garden or fall. Strengthening, sending the Son with words of life, spiritual words the breath of life .

Jesus said his corrupted flesh profits for zero. We walk by faith

A promised demonstration of the work of the father in heaven pouring out the wrath of mankind .I don't think it is attributed to human hands, "a demon inspired Mob". I don't think God would share that eternal glory with the corruptible. That could become a place that robs the glory of God He is not a man . At that time period Satan fell and could no longer deceive all the nations of the world God was a Jewish man, and their must follow the the law of men .Called the "law of the fathers"... .oral tradition of corrupted mankind after the philosophies of man . And not the Perfect law of God.(sola scriptura)

Absolutely · May 10, 2020

biker said:

Show me a postrib rapture verse

Absolutely · May 10, 2020

cv5 said:

The rapture deniers have no verses...NONE

They shift the debate to dead men.
Relying on statements from men Above Gods word.

They litterally show themselves to be in error

Absolutely · May 10, 2020

biker said:

" but pray that you will be counted Worthy (as in the 5 wise virgins) to escape the things about to come upon the world and stand before the son of God."

"Because you have kept the word of my testimony,I will keep you from the trial that is about to come upon the earth. "

Lot escaped "pretrib"
Noah was delivered into the ark "pretrib"
The baby Jesus ESCAPED to safety.

Maybe noah should have swam
Lot should have gotten some burns
And Jesus felt some cuts from Herod.
The nerve of God....saving his own before disaster.

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