All things James

No Jew or Gentile in the body of Christ. To suggest James is writing to Christians would be contradicing Paul’s writings to the Church.

You did not get the information you stated from Scripture. If you were only going by Scripture, you would never come away with that twelve tribes refers to Christians. When reading every other usage, you would determine that twelve tribes describes the whole nation of Israel, not Jewish Christians. Let the Scripture be honest.

James’ audience needed to receive the word and have their souls saved.

1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

James is writing to the twelve tribes scattered among the nations because that is whom he chose to address in this letter. We don't stop being Jews or Gentiles when we believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. He has made us both one. We both have access in one Spirit to the Father. The Gentiles are fellow citizens with the Jews.

Concerning the first part of your statement, reference Ephesians 2:11-22: [11] Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called 'the uncircumcision' by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands--[12] remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. [13] But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. [14] For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility [15] by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, [16] and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. [17] And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. [18] For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. [19] So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, [20] built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, [21] in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. [22] In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit."

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makes as much sense as you do regarding James

don't hold your breath...you may be in earnest, but your post are not honest

There are no Jews or Gentiles in the body of Christ, so why does James address the twelve tribes if it’s a Christian epistle?

No answers huh? Just smart comebacks...

Show me where one of my posts are wrong. Please use scripture and hold off on opinions.

James’ audience needed to receive the word and have their souls saved.

1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

Tribulation saint...Revelation 14:12-13, keeping commandments and the faith of Jesus Christ (faith plus works), James 2:24.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Let's see...

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ... Why would the Jews give two hoots what a Christian has to say? Those in the tribulation better pay close attention

James 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. Why would James say "our" Lord Jesus Christ if he were writing to Jews who have not believed in Jesus as Lord?
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. (Faith plus works.)

James 3:1 My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. Why would James align himself with Jewish teachers of the Law, saying, "we", knowing that the unbelieving Jews would not accept James, a Christian, to be a teacher of the Law? Tribulation doctrine, Jacob’s trouble.

Given that James preached the same gospel that Paul and Peter preached (otherwise he is a heretic), and knowing that there is only one gospel: salvation by faith in Jesus Christ and not by the works of the Law, why would James tell the Jews to follow the Law for salvation? In the Church age there is but one gospel unto salvation. James is addressing those Jews who are in the tribulation.

they WERE saved you dingbat

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maybe I need a pm from a mod

the book of James was written to Jewish CHRISTIANS ...NOT unbelievers. anyone who disregards that, is ignorant of both how the church started and who the first Christians were

The Letter of James, also called The Epistle Of St. James The Apostle, New Testament writing addressed to the early Christian churches (“to the twelve tribes in the dispersion”) and attributed to James, a Christian Jew, whose identity is disputed. There is also wide disagreement as to the date of composition. The letter is moralistic rather than dogmatic and reflects early Jewish Christianity. The writer covers such topics as endurance under persecution, poverty and wealth, control of the tongue, care for orphans and widows, cursing, boasting, oaths, and prayer. The only New Testament reference to anointing of the sick (5:14) is cited, mostly by Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox theologians, as a probable reference to what they consider one of the seven sacraments.

I mean come on! even the Encylocpedia Britannica says other wise than the op

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there is no answer for someone who thinks the book of James is written to pagans and unbelieving Jews


go read the OT...there is enough written in there for every unbeliever who every had the privilege of trotting around this planet

I am so up to here with people who come back with non responses and try to sound intelligent

this is Jan 1 2020...I do not make new years resolutions...but I am tempted to make one with reference to not suffering fools

childish childish childish

there is no answer for someone who thinks the book of James is written to pagans and unbelieving Jews


go read the OT...there is enough written in there for every unbeliever who every had the privilege of trotting around this planet

I am so up to here with people who come back with non responses and try to sound intelligent

this is Jan 1 2020...I do not make new years resolutions...but I am tempted to make one with reference to not suffering fools

I really, no really I mean really, hope we are not going in the direction of James does not apply to Christian Gentiles

Those in the tribulation better pay close attention

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. (Faith plus works.)

Tribulation doctrine, Jacob’s trouble.

In the Church age there is but one gospel unto salvation. James is addressing those Jews who are in the tribulation.

The whole division found between Jews and Gentiles in this thread contradicts the N.T.....there is neither Jew nor Gentile in Christ...the two have become one.....

"Better pay close attention" is an appeal to fear, not a sound argument.


Your position needs to be internally coherent to be sound. That means internal to James' letter, or in reference to the OT only. Claiming that the Jews would need to know what John had not yet written is anachronistic.


Irrelevant to my question.


Says you. That's a circular argument. There is and has only ever been one gospel: salvation by faith. Salvation has always been by faith; the object of faith was revealed in Christ. Salvation for Jews post-resurrection is not by some different means.

Three fallacies, one heresy, and a case of incoherence; that's pretty poor reasoning in support of your position.

There are no Jews or Gentiles in the body of Christ, so why does James address the twelve tribes if it’s a Christian epistle?