All things James

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I was always of opinion that Paul and James complemented each other in their writings. If you have faith but lack being like Christ, how can you grow and produce good fruit? I thought I had faith, but my lack of deeds(Loving others more than myself) showed that I had no fruit to bare. Since I had no fruit I did not mature and eventually fell back into a life of sin. I agree with James, if you have no deeds you really have a fake faith that is not accepted by God.
How many deeds, what quality of the deeds, do you then believe will qualify your faith not being fake, and hence being accepted by God?
 
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There was a transition period from OT to NT. The jews were walking by sight. They needed something physical to have faith that is why Jesus needed to perform miracles. They also have different set of instructions than Christians. The book of James is for the Jews because if you apply it to Christians you will come up with contradicting doctrines. You have to rightly divide the Word. It applies to a group of people and to a certain time period. Many reject dispensationalism and called it heresy but you can't deny that it is true in the Bible. With dispensationalism, it is easier to understand the Bible. Without it, the Bible appears to contradict itself. God is speaking to different group of people and different time periods. But if it becomes hyperdispensationalism it becomes heresy.
wonder if choosing twelve disciples had any connection with the twelve tribes
 

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How many deeds, what quality of the deeds, do you then believe will qualify your faith not being fake, and hence being accepted by God?
I don’t think it qualifies your faith but solidifies it. Again, look to Jesus. He just didn’t say things but actually did them. Care for your fellow man. There is no quota the must be attained. It’s a continuous form of love that lasts until your time is competed on this Earth. Why did Jesus say that he must wash his Disciples or they would not have any part in him? Was Jesus not showing them how to be servants via his deed?
 
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I don’t think it qualifies your faith but solidifies it. Again, look to Jesus. He just didn’t say things but actually did them. Care for your fellow man. There is no quota the must be attained. It’s a continuous form of love that lasts until your time is competed on this Earth. Why did Jesus say that he must wash his Disciples or they would not have any part in him? Was Jesus not showing them how to be servants via his deed?
You are justified by the faith OF Christ. I am sure it is solid enough.
 

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You are justified by the faith OF Christ. I am sure it is solid enough.
You are, but you won’t grow and hence wither. Remember the parable of the mustered seed.
 
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and when the matters on Christians?
Different dispensationalists may have different views on this.

For the rest of us who are non Jews, as of now, I don't think the 12 will have any authority over us. Maybe Paul will be the one with that authority?

Any scripture regarding this?
 
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Different dispensationalists may have different views on this.

For the rest of us who are non Jews, as of now, I don't think the 12 will have any authority over us. Maybe Paul will be the one with that authority?

Any scripture regarding this?
Who knows but Matthias came along a bit later
 
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Who knows but Matthias came along a bit later
They needed Matthias to complete the 12, after Judas.

By the time James, the son of thunder, was executed though in Acts 12, the Jews have already rejected the 1 year extension offer of the Kingdom, so there was no need to replace him.
 
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They needed Matthias to complete the 12, after Judas.

By the time James, the son of thunder, was executed though in Acts 12, the Jews have already rejected the 1 year extension offer of the Kingdom, so there was no need to replace him.
Ok teach me the scripture on the Jews rejected the 1 year extension.
 
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Romans 11
1I ask then, did God reject His people? Certainly not! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2God did not reject His people, whom He foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says about Elijah, how he appealed to God against Israel: 3“Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars. I am the only one left, and they are seeking my life as well”?

4And what was the divine reply to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”

5In the same way, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace
 
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Ok teach me the scripture on the Jews rejected the 1 year extension.
He spoke also of this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.

Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?

And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

— Luke 13:6–9, King James Version

Jesus earthly ministry was 3 years. When Jesus was on the cross, he asked his father to forgive them for this act, because they know not what they do, the Father agreed to Jesus request.

That one year expired roughly around the time Stephen was stoned. What I meant was that, even after one year extension, the Jewish nation still rejected their Messiah.
 
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He spoke also of this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.

Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?

And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

— Luke 13:6–9, King James Version

Jesus earthly ministry was 3 years. When Jesus was on the cross, he asked his father to forgive them for this act, because they know not what they do, the Father agreed to Jesus request.

That one year expired roughly around the time Stephen was stoned. What I meant was that, even after one year extension, the Jewish nation still rejected their Messiah.
If it is finished seems to imply finished, would a extension be not really finished?
 
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Matt 4:13
Leaving Nazareth, He went and lived in Capernaum, which is by the sea in the region of Zebulun and Naphtali,
 
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If it is finished seems to imply finished, would a extension be not really finished?
It is finished refers to the problem of sin that caused man to be separated from God, being resolved forever.

That is separate from the Jewish nation acknowledging Jesus as their promised King and Messiah.
 
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It is finished refers to the problem of sin that caused man to be separated from God, being resolved forever.

That is separate from the Jewish nation acknowledging Jesus as their promised King and Messiah.
if an extension was given there’s a close finish a complete right? any scripture on the expiration
 
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Ezekiel 31:14
To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.
 
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Joshua 18
21These were the cities of the clans of the tribe of Benjamin:

Jericho, Beth-hoglah, Emek-keziz, 22Beth-arabah, Zemaraim, Bethel,23Avvim, Parah, Ophrah, 24Chephar-ammoni, Ophni, and Geba—twelve cities, along with their villages.

25Gibeon, Ramah, Beeroth, 26Mizpeh, Chephirah, Mozah, 27Rekem, Irpeel, Taralah, 28Zelah, Haeleph, Jebusc (that is, Jerusalem), Gibeah,dand Kiriath-jearim—e fourteen cities, along with their villages.

This was the inheritance of the clans of the tribe of Benjamin.

Joshua 19
1The second lot came out for the clans of the tribe of Simeon:

Their inheritance lay within the territory of Judah 2and included Beersheba (or Sheba), Moladah, 3Hazar-shual, Balah, Ezem, 4Eltolad, Bethul, Hormah, 5Ziklag, Beth-marcaboth, Hazar-susah, 6Beth-lebaoth, and Sharuhen—thirteen cities, along with their villages.

7Ain, Rimmon, Ether, and Ashan—four cities, along with their villages,8and all the villages surrounding these cities as far as Baalath-beer (Ramah of the Negev).

Matthew 4:18
As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, He saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen.