Not By Works

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CherieR

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It is amazing.....how many people actually believe that they must help Jesus maintain their salvation......
I have felt this way before. I know there are some things in Scripture I don't understand but even so, God calls us to trust in him.
 

stillness

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Walk trough the valley
What acts of compassion for the poor have you partaken in so far in the month of October 2019?
The book of Acts, is called Acts of the apostles, yet it sais "The Lord working with them, confirming His Word with sines and wonders." As we are in Him we have no claim to the work. "As labourers together with Him" we would not be the ones saying, "Have we not done many wonderful works in your name." These were building their own kingdoms and using the name of Jesus to draw people. These are not in Christ and resist the Holy Gost: still have their hard heart, living for themselves, and would likely believe not by works, as they are unable to be moved by Compashion to do the work of God. Distorting the meaning of "Not by works of righteousness witch we have done," that was ment to say: our hard hearts can't save ourselves; if they understood this they would stumble at the Word and be broken and have an exchange of life with God, and understand that "But by His Grace alone." To mean what the Lord sais, "Not by might, not by power, but by My Spirit sais the Lord." "Without Love I am nothing." So can God save a hard heart? No, He has to let it stumble against Him and be broken, in hope that we will hate our life in this world and come to Him and lose our life in Him. "Save yourselves from this untoward generation." A generation building their on kingdoms and quarreling with one another. If you haven't noticed, you're unable to quarel with me, as I am disappearing in Christ and your judgment would expose you, while I suffer reproach gladly. No I don't believe in eternal security, in this life we can fall from any level except perfection and neither one of us is there saying, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, from now on there is kept for me a crown of righteousness from the Righteous Judge and not for me only but for all those who Love His appearing." And don't think you will Love His appearing if your found quarreling. "Only by pride comes contention." "The servant of the Lord must not quarel..."
 

stillness

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Languages were divided (confused evil)so that
people could not unite unless walking in Love. "Jesus is the author of eternal salvation to all that obey him." We stumble and can fall from Grace in this life, I have. Years ago the L,ord told me: Your going to fall that you may learn to continually repent.
We can always get up and go on unless filled with violence: the mark of the beast, that is, rejecting the Holy Spirit. And if you interpret differently, well after all, languages have been divided. "By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, if you Love oneanother."
 

blue_ladybug

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Macabeus, the reason why it's against the rules here to have 2 accounts open at the same time, is because we are only to have ONE account with ONE user name.. So you WILL need to delete your Josephcolorcoat account, or risk getting banned by @Oncefallen..
Welp, I warned him but he didn't listen. I see he/they got banned.. :(
 

Lightskin

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The Lord told me a while back: Your not ready. I wanted to see Jesus face to face. I don't claim to be ready for judgment. He also told me recently after facing my shallow prayer life: Your time is very short. In the bible is said "The time is short, so that they that have wives be as if they have none..." There is no time to waste on idol or treasures in this life or on a life for ourselves, but you may have misunderstood. "Jesus was moved by compashion," the Holy Spirit moves us with Compashion. We all stumble, if we are not moved, we stumble out of union with God and our hard heart is broken, that we may come to Him for a change of heart. Stumbling is not at all the same as "Always resist the Holy Gost."
You didn’t answer my question
 

VCO

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I found a three layered cross at a garage sale, that is similar to this one:


I know that is not in color, the second layer is Blue.
I use them on my Custom made Canes and Walking sticks. I am unfamiliar if the wings stand for something, I have found one on line that has a banner across it GOD's Speed, an old saying across it. But I want to make sure it is not a symbol for one of the Cults. Give me some feed back, thank you.
 

blue_ladybug

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I found a three layered cross at a garage sale, that is similar to this one:


I know that is not in color, the second layer is Blue.
I use them on my Custom made Canes and Walking sticks. I am unfamiliar if the wings stand for something, I have found one on line that has a banner across it GOD's Speed, an old saying across it. But I want to make sure it is not a symbol for one of the Cults. Give me some feed back, thank you.
You stole my hue!! I KNEW there was a reason why my color was fading!! Angry.png
 

Lightskin

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The book of Acts, is called Acts of the apostles, yet it sais "The Lord working with them, confirming His Word with sines and wonders." As we are in Him we have no claim to the work. "As labourers together with Him" we would not be the ones saying, "Have we not done many wonderful works in your name." These were building their own kingdoms and using the name of Jesus to draw people. These are not in Christ and resist the Holy Gost: still have their hard heart, living for themselves, and would likely believe not by works, as they are unable to be moved by Compashion to do the work of God. Distorting the meaning of "Not by works of righteousness witch we have done," that was ment to say: our hard hearts can't save ourselves; if they understood this they would stumble at the Word and be broken and have an exchange of life with God, and understand that "But by His Grace alone." To mean what the Lord sais, "Not by might, not by power, but by My Spirit sais the Lord." "Without Love I am nothing." So can God save a hard heart? No, He has to let it stumble against Him and be broken, in hope that we will hate our life in this world and come to Him and lose our life in Him. "Save yourselves from this untoward generation." A generation building their on kingdoms and quarreling with one another. If you haven't noticed, you're unable to quarel with me, as I am disappearing in Christ and your judgment would expose you, while I suffer reproach gladly. No I don't believe in eternal security, in this life we can fall from any level except perfection and neither one of us is there saying, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, from now on there is kept for me a crown of righteousness from the Righteous Judge and not for me only but for all those who Love His appearing." And don't think you will Love His appearing if your found quarreling. "Only by pride comes contention." "The servant of the Lord must not quarel..."
One sentence please.
 

VCO

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I found a three layered cross at a garage sale, that is similar to this one:


I know that is not in color, the second layer is Blue.
I use them on my Custom made Canes and Walking sticks. I am unfamiliar if the wings stand for something, I have found one on line that has a banner across it GOD's Speed, an old saying across it. But I want to make sure it is not a symbol for one of the Cults. Give me some feed back, thank you.

Here is the real one mounted on top of one of my canes.


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UnderGrace

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ummmm @blue_ladybug you

forgot to get the coffee on this morning and send those cute kitten pictures .... this is my day so far and I am only half way done


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I worked very hard today helping an old dude change out one of the two lift cylinders on a 977b John Deere Highlift....guess what...It did not change the fact that I was saved by faith to the uttermost, kept by Jesus' power and the works had absolutely nothing to do with keeping me saved....that is the work of Jesus...!!
 

VCO

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Here is the real one mounted on top of one of my canes.


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I found a MEANING that FITS, the Heart with Wings. It means a tribute for a Departed Loved One.

That Cane is one that I made for Wife, about a Year and a Half, before my wife Passed Away from a fatal heart attack, 2 Nov, 2015.

Yes, it brought tears to my eyes, when I found that Meaning.
 

Lightskin

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I worked very hard today helping an old dude change out one of the two lift cylinders on a 977b John Deere Highlift....guess what...It did not change the fact that I was saved by faith to the uttermost, kept by Jesus' power and the works had absolutely nothing to do with keeping me saved....that is the work of Jesus...!!
I’ve been thinking about the following:
worker bees acknowledge Jesus, but do they have faith in Him? Seems they don’t trust in His completed works, hence why they work themselves, not to bear fruit but to “sustain their salvation.” IMO that means they lack faith in Him.
 

CherieR

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I’ve been thinking about the following:
worker bees acknowledge Jesus, but do they have faith in Him? Seems they don’t trust in His completed works, hence why they work themselves, not to bear fruit but to “sustain their salvation.” IMO that means they lack faith in Him.
If by the word faith you mean trust, then I would say yes to a degree.