Not By Works
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The Lord told me a while back: Your not ready. I wanted to see Jesus face to face. I don't claim to be ready for judgment. He also told me recently after facing my shallow prayer life: Your time is very short. In the bible is said "The time is short, so that they that have wives be as if they have none..." There is no time to waste on idol or treasures in this life or on a life for ourselves, but you may have misunderstood. "Jesus was moved by compashion," the Holy Spirit moves us with Compashion. We all stumble, if we are not moved, we stumble out of union with God and our hard heart is broken, that we may come to Him for a change of heart. Stumbling is not at all the same as "Always resist the Holy Gost."
This is why Christians rake each other over the coals .
Your post 3,357 Why I believe salvation can be lost thread.
Quote any OSAS believers who have said that or believe that.
Yet in post 3,350 you say
You fall foul of post 3,350 in 3,357
By inference if you have not asked a OSAS person whether they teach and do according to post 3,357 that's why they get upset and take to task and issue because you are saying something they have never said. Therefore it becomes personal.
Your post 3,357 Why I believe salvation can be lost thread.
Quote any OSAS believers who have said that or believe that.
Yet in post 3,350 you say
You fall foul of post 3,350 in 3,357
By inference if you have not asked a OSAS person whether they teach and do according to post 3,357 that's why they get upset and take to task and issue because you are saying something they have never said. Therefore it becomes personal.
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The ongoing misunderstanding is that our works were not moved by Compashion. "If I give all my wealth to the poor and have not Love I am nothing." But if I give half of my wealt to the poor and use the other half to follow Him, I will grow in Love following Him. "Whoever has a purse let him take It." Believing and following are acts of God that we can not take credit for, "It's no longer I that lives but Christ that Lives in me." If it's still me, I'm still a have in danger. "Wow to them that are nursing babes in those days." "That you no longer be babes blown about with every wind of teaching, but speaking the Truth in Love,may grow up in Him in Love."
With regards to my above posts.
I do have some sympathy with @Macabeus
He has asked to be quoted stuff that he has said that he has been accused of saying and if you don't mind me saying Mac you have taken it personally and gone off on one.
I get it cause I'm of the same mindset.
Mac my advice is to just let it go.
People I ask you to not just suppose what someone is saying but actually ask what are you saying.
I'm OSAS and it really gets on my tits (as we say over here) when even I say I don't promote what they say I promote they just ignore it and bring out the big guns that people can do what they want.
It doesn't even matter when I say I quote Romans 5-6 to those who believe that's it's ok to you use grace as a license to sin that in fact it's not.
I've even said that when I tell them it's not they disregard it.
Now that's the issue.
I do have some sympathy with @Macabeus
He has asked to be quoted stuff that he has said that he has been accused of saying and if you don't mind me saying Mac you have taken it personally and gone off on one.
I get it cause I'm of the same mindset.
Mac my advice is to just let it go.
People I ask you to not just suppose what someone is saying but actually ask what are you saying.
I'm OSAS and it really gets on my tits (as we say over here) when even I say I don't promote what they say I promote they just ignore it and bring out the big guns that people can do what they want.
It doesn't even matter when I say I quote Romans 5-6 to those who believe that's it's ok to you use grace as a license to sin that in fact it's not.
I've even said that when I tell them it's not they disregard it.
Now that's the issue.
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The problem is not the false doctrine as such.
Truth is that false doctrine can be and is serious.
But what really gets my goat as a OSAS believer is that we promote and believe that it is ok to sin all we want, go rape pillage, murder committ adultery.
Yet they never mention, gluttony, lying, anger and gossip.
So that's the issue and its hypocrisy.
I'm not saying you have ever said this, infact I don't think you have ever said that those of us who believe in OSAS have promoted that we believe that it's a license to sin.
Kudos to you as you say.
Truth is that false doctrine can be and is serious.
But what really gets my goat as a OSAS believer is that we promote and believe that it is ok to sin all we want, go rape pillage, murder committ adultery.
Yet they never mention, gluttony, lying, anger and gossip.
So that's the issue and its hypocrisy.
I'm not saying you have ever said this, infact I don't think you have ever said that those of us who believe in OSAS have promoted that we believe that it's a license to sin.
Kudos to you as you say.
