Never Believe

Riven, you have contradicted yourself!

For the measure you use, it will be measured onto you

I'm no fortune teller, but I sense that the fight can get uglier and uglier. Rely on God for strength, ok sister

Keeping it coming then, we may see results yet ...we can always hope.

Riven lives in a dismal world not really understanding the God who is LOVE!!

Good can see riven's future, and his future is very bleak to say the least

Yes, of course in your head you see it that way.

But then, I see it this way.

Deuteronomy 21:10-17

Marrying a Captive Woman
10 When you go to war against your enemies and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife.14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

The Right of the Firstborn
15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love, 16 when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the wife he does not love. 17 He must acknowledge the son of his unloved wife as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father’s strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him.

Really, then why out of all the verses in the Bible do you decide to pick one that can only be taken as a threat. You're obviously trying to induce fear, in anyone who reads that.

See, I told you how you'd respond, didn't I.

Although, I can see a lot of conflict between those verses about divorce & what Jesus said about divorce.

I can keep posting verses like I did, but you'll just find someway out of it.

Matthew 5:22 22But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Well the thing you don't understand is the "torture" you are speaking of is not what paid for your sin. What paid for your sin was the price you couldn't ever pay with your (our to be clear, not "you") wicked dead spirit, disconnected from God self. The wrath that abides over all men's head, the price the flesh can NEVER pay for, it was on the cross when God crushed Him for our iniquity, the spiritual price that only He could pay, so that our just penalty can be justly covered by a God that loved us enough to pay that price, praise Jesus Amen!!! The way you are thinking of it it 100% in the flesh, the price that was paid was a spiritual price, one that is still foolishness to those perishing. I know man, I went to church a long time and didn't know Him, was just like you. But through a motorcycle wreak that took all function from my right arm, He brought me to truth. Keep seeking man, keep asking question just like you did here, just keep seeking truth.

Jude 1:23

“And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.”

King James Version (KJV)

Your God is unchanging, but then killed himself to change his mind?

If this is like pulling teeth, then @Magenta is demonstrating the patience of a dentist

God's revealed written Word calls you a fool.

The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.

How many times did you say you read the Bible?

Christ was slain from before the foundation of the world.

It was for that purpose that He took on flesh: to pay the sin debt.

Okay, pull me out of fire then.

But don't be a bystander outside my burning house screaming at me "You're gonna burn, you're gonna burn"

What you need to do is, kick down the door, run through the flames and drag me out.

Take personal responsibility. It is a choice you must make for yourself.

I suggest you get down on your knees to pray. Humbly ask God to reveal Himself to you.

God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.