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PennEd

PennEd

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Riven said:
Nope, it's beliefs that create that mess.

And now your Christian nation is reaping the fruit's, for forcing it's beliefs on the public for generations.
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You are storing up wrath and judgement on yourself. Please leave. I'd like to lead you to the Lord, but you have no interest. So it would be better for you to leave, rather than store up God's wrath:

Romans 2:5 New King James Version (NKJV)
5 But in accordance with your hardness and your [a]impenitent heart you are [b]treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
 
Riven

Riven

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PennEd said:
You are storing up wrath and judgement on yourself. Please leave. I'd like to lead you to the Lord, but you have no interest. So it would be better for you to leave, rather than store up God's wrath:

Romans 2:5 New King James Version (NKJV)
5 But in accordance with your hardness and your [a]impenitent heart you are [b]treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
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Wanting another human being to suffer & be harmed by anything is an act of sadism.

You may believe it is your God who's saying that, and not you. But it is you, because you have specifically chosen that verse to elicit a response from me you want.
 
Magenta

Magenta

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Malachi 2:14-15 You ask, "Why?" It is because the LORD is the witness between you and the wife of your youth. You have been unfaithful to her, though she is your partner, the wife of your marriage covenant. Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.

Riven said:
Why would you want me to prove to you that the Bible God recommends the taking of other wives? That would mean there is a contradiction, but you'd only accept that the Bible is flawless. So you'll move the goal post so far away in your mind, that whatever I show you will never land a point.

It's useless, so I won't do it.
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Your claim is bogus. There is no such recommendation.
 
Magenta

Magenta

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Riven said:
Cherry pick away, it's not going to change what I said.
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What you said was a lie, and I proved it, whereas you resort to ad homs (logical fallacy) because you cannot prove what you claim.
 
theanointedwinner

theanointedwinner

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Riven, you like picking so called contradicts from the Bible, how is that any different from cherry picking

And even if we don't see everything, God sees everything, and I believe that he also want you to know that you have contradicted yourself

Riven said:
Indeed I am, since I was tortured by my fellow human beings far longer that Jesus.
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This clearly contradicts your original post which days that you are not about to love someone who you perceive will threaten to torture you
 
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UnderGrace

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Riven said:
Wanting another human being to suffer & be harmed by anything is an act of sadism.

You may believe it is your God who's saying that, and not you. But it is you, because you have specifically chosen that verse to elicit a response from me you want.
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I see you are trying to frame the argument by your choice of words.....but your words are wrong.

Sadism....NO

Self-Sacrifice - YES
 
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UnderGrace

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Riven said:
Wanting another human being to suffer & be harmed by anything is an act of sadism.

You may believe it is your God who's saying that, and not you. But it is you, because you have specifically chosen that verse to elicit a response from me you want.
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Who wanted another human being to suffer?
 
theanointedwinner

theanointedwinner

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Magenta said:
He has not been born again of the Spirit.
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You do know where I'm coming from, I would chase after Gospel tracts, but riven is the exact opposite

Which will be quite a different atmosphere

You have much more experience with this than I do
 
PennEd

PennEd

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Riven said:
Wanting another human being to suffer & be harmed by anything is an act of sadism.

You may believe it is your God who's saying that, and not you. But it is you, because you have specifically chosen that verse to elicit a response from me you want.
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You are so blinded by your ignorance that you cannot even see that I am saying the exact OPPOSITE then I want you to suffer.

You truly need Jesus!
 
theanointedwinner

theanointedwinner

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PennEd said:
You are so blinded by your ignorance that you cannot even see that I am saying the exact OPPOSITE then I want you to suffer.

You truly need Jesus!
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Perhaps we can practice apologetics by arguing against a brick wall, not much different
 
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