Born Again Speaking in Tongues

I am giving a thumbs up here b/c of the video. I do not know if the comment was meant as a joke/criticism or not, but I DO KNOW THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT WAS MOVING THERE! I DO KNOW THAT FEELING where it starts in your belly and comes up to your mouth (tongue wants to move but your human mind wont let it........) but once you surrender YOUR control to HIS will......... well I cannot begin to tell you in words (human words that is) what it can and WILL DO FOR YOU (anyone)

Romans 10:9 says
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

I agree that tongues or not has NOTHING to do with ones salvation.

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First, here we're talking about real, rational languages, not modern tongues-speech.

I suppose it's a matter of how one interprets the bolded phrase - I would argue that the Spirit gave them the courage to go forth and speak to the people i.e. gave them their 'voice' their 'utterance' (more metaphorically speaking than literal). I don't believe however that the Spirit had anything to do with what language they spoke to the people in - I'm kind of beating a dead horse, but there were really only two languages spoken by the Jews there and the apostles spoke both of them.

Isn't it interesting that a baby "babbles" before it forms words with it's tongue?

That's one way to put it - babies, when babbling, are 'playing' with sounds (and in doing so, all parts of the vocal tract are used including the tongue). They have no idea or concept of true spoken language yet. They're not trying to mimic language; they don't really know what it is yet. They're simply repeating the sounds they hear all around them (but sometimes said babbling can come out as a complete short sentence as clear as day - which scares the heck out of most parents the first time it happens )

That was acts 2,2-4 reportet was nowhere in the bible repeatet.
No wind, no flames are reportet in acts 8, 10 ore 19.

No. Not a joke sister. Just an illustration of how ludicrous, and yes, I would say blasphemous some in this movement are.

This is absolute UNBIBLICAL lunacy! I may not know His complete Will for my life, but what I DO know is that it ISN'T this! There may in fact be legitimate tongues being spoken somewhere, BUT this is NOT FROM GOD!

Did you watch the video? How is this defensible?

I apologize. I misunderstood what you meant. Yes, the initial outpouring did include the wind, cloven tongues of fire, etc. These in fact are evidence that backs up the fact that the Holy Ghost is present in one's body.

My comment was that the Holy Ghost was spontaneously poured into the Jews at Pentecost and on the Gentiles in Acts 10:44-48. In those particular cases the Spirit infilling did not require the laying on of hands.

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Mark 16:

7 Wonder not that I said to thee: You must be born again.
8 The Spirit breatheth where he will and thou hearest his voice: but thou knowest not whence he cometh and whither he goeth.
So is every one that is born of the Spirit.
John 3: (DRB)

Really bad rendering of John 3:7-8 but you do so to create a private interpretation of the scriptures.

The Holy Spirit is obedient to the Father just as the Son. The Holy Spirit does the will of the Father and never acts on His own.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

One must start at the beginning of the chapter and read the entire chapter for context.
If one believes in Jesus they will search out what He says to do and they will be born again.

As Waggles post indicated Jesus said those who believe and are baptized will be saved. Mark 16:16

Notice Jesus words below:
And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. John 12:47-50

I know many speech/language pathologists and other clinicians that would not accept this statement, receptive language precedes expressive language and studies have shown that infants can understand many words before they can say them.

Thanks for sharing.

Not yet but we're gonna wear 'em down!

Sad how the people in the crowd were so gullible

It would seem that no one can offer a metric to separate out the real from the false, except for their own internal feelings about the experience.

I do not share this to be harsh. What do you suppose this parable means? For it states that many are called, but few are chosen.

"Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
For many are called, but few are chosen." Matt 22:8-14

Jesus told people to strive to enter in at the strait (narrow) gate:
hen said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." Luke 13:23-24

And that, "...wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Matt 7:13-14

It is our duty to search out and obey Jesus' commands.

It is not our job to judge. Acquiring what one feels to be evidence before pursuing something in the Word is not stepping out in faith.

Can happen the same way in the Spirit too Surprises the one doing it,