Not By Works

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

But these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

Definition of sin https://www.gotquestions.org/definition-sin.html

Some attempt to use defining sin, to block the idea we can walk like Jesus.

Poor in spirit, mourning, meek, hungering after righteousness, merciful, pure in heart, peacemakers.
Their treasure is in heaven, they are not angry, but bless, they do not lust after sexual desire, they love their
enemies, they do their acts of righteousness in private not for show, they pray meaningful prayers expecting
the Lord hears and will answer, they forgive from the heart, they do not worry about wealth but the Lords ways,
they do not judge but desire to help and encourage others.
Matt 5 - 7
Jesus's example

So if Christs approach is our calling, what is so difficult, unless of course this reality is rebelled against
so strongly, to be like Christ is thought of becoming irrelevant or nothing.

The reality of personality, is like the apostles though they walked like Jesus, they were very much
individuals with their way of expressing themselves.

So the possibility is it is really just unbelievers are trying to push their own faith, and have no real
handle of Jesus and Christ himself.

One for the O.T. deniers that say the O.T. does not point to Christ or teach Jesus

"Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins."

And through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

Is our goal to be like Jesus in our walk, in our prayer life, in our expectations?
Are we like Jesus today?

How will we make up the gap, and does scripture call us to put effort in to do
this very thing, or is it all sloth of spirituality or called resting in God and He does it all?

If we claim to know Jesus yet abiding in sin is the slavery to which we must get used
to, of what benefit to us is faith?

Who believes someone who says, Yes I will do that, but does nothing compared to one
who both declares their intentions and carries them out?

We are saved through faith in Jesus and the cross for the forgiveness of our sins, but
this does not work if we stay as we are, because our faith and forgiveness are just words
with no impact.

just wanted to pull this up, to show that this person 100% linked to gotquestions.org to get his definition of sin.

You describe yourself.

Stay humble, keep forgiving others, harm no one, repent if you sin, overcome.

Whoever believes that they have to obey Jesus.

To repent.what is the true definition of that?

Romans 16:25-27 Now to him who is able to establish you by my gospel and the proclamation of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery hidden for long ages past, but now revealed and made known through the prophetic writings by the command of the eternal God, so that all nations might believe and obey him–to the only wise God be glory forever through Jesus Christ! Amen.

You really get hung up on the word "obey" and continue to spin passages of scripture that mention the word "obey" into salvation by works. Perverting the gospel by teaching salvation by works is not obeying Jesus.

Now in regards to John 3:36, I often hear works-salvationists quote that verse in the NASB and "stress" the word "obey" to imply that we are saved by obedience/works. In regards to "does not obey the Son" in the New American Standard translation of the Bible, this does not mean that receiving eternal life is received based on the merits of our obedience/works which follows believing in the Son, but obey by choosing to believe in the Son. If John wanted to make obedience the central theme in salvation here, he would have said: "He who believes and obeys the Son has eternal life," but that is not what John said. To obey the Son here is to choose to believe in the Son.

The King James Version renders this same verse as: He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that "believeth not the Son" shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. The NIV says "rejects the Son" and the CSB says, "refuses to believe in the Son." The Greek word translated as "believeth not" in that verse is apeitheo and it means: "not believe, disobedient, obey not, unbelieving." Strong’s definition of apeitheo is "to disbelieve willfully and perversely." In the context of 3:36, to "not obey the Son" means to reject the Son by refusing to believe in the Son.

Shouldn't you be off this site and out helping little old ladies across the street to keep your salvation?

So either these folk hate Jesus and want to harm His people
or they believe they are God's rebuke, which certainly is not Christs example.

What do you say to a man who says the truth but has a way to go?

Amen for the truth, and God bless you on your journey.
If they are going the right way what is the fruit of beating them up?
It just leads to discouragement and fewer people who will walk the way of Jesus.

So either these folk hate Jesus and want to harm His people or they believe they
are God's rebuke, which certainly is not Christs example.

A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out, till he leads justice to victory.
Matt 12:20

Aaaaaand our resident martyr falls on that rusty old sword again.

To have the mind of Christ is to have an obedient mind. You go against being obedient to get saved.