Not By Works

Asserting VCO isn't Christian is worse than what he stated about Mormons. Calling one a moron isn't exactly unbiblical.

However, telling another they are absent of the graces of salvation is diabolical on your account. No need to throw "love" around when you haven't exemplified it yourself.

You are not a Christian either if you think it is alright to go around calling people names.

We are to do good things for one another, not only to show obedience to God, but also to show His love through us for others. We are NOT to do them to gain, maintain, keep salvation or earn our way into heaven.

Ignorance of the Bible on display here. I wont tell you where, but I will tell you that both in the NT and OT, namecalling is done by the apostles, prophets and Jesus Himself. brood of vipers is not exactly a compliment?

Think about that next time you type that.

Telling people what God's Word says, all of it, is the definition of God's Love. Telling people they are immortal when they are mere humans is an evil that has permeated the minds of religious men since the serpent convinced Eve "she shall surely not die".

Telling people "Peace, Peace, when there is no peace is the worse kind of Evil. It makes people less cautious, and comfortable in this temporary dwelling. We should reject man made religions like yours and follow the Word of God. And He says we are in a fight. And to overcome in this battle that you preach is over, we are to "put on" the Whole Armor of God.

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

God doesn't have all these warnings and instructions because we are already immortal. He has them there because we are not.

But as He said, most really just don't believe.

Ignorance of the Bible on display here. I wont tell you where, but I will tell you that both in the NT and OT, namecalling is done by the apostles, prophets and Jesus Himself. brood of vipers is not exactly a compliment?

Think about that next time you type that.

So calling someone a stupid moron is OK and christianly?

In post 74,576 (huh?) you stated that we WILL be judged by our works, as Jesus Himself stated.

So how can you say we are NOT to do them to maintain or keep our salvation if Jesus said we will be judged by them?

Are we judged by them or not?

I repeat John 5:28-29

If I understand the context here correctly, someone called mormons morons, right? Well lets just cut the politlcally correct junk and think about it.
Is the mormon doctrine, DUMB? Yes. You have to be fairly dumb to get deceived into mormonism. Some other false religions have something to "woo" people in with, either experiences, emotionalism or intellectual or philosophical ideas. But mormonism has none of these, it has nothing to offer. Its just a stupid religion, no nice way to put it.
You know the story right? Guy finds plates of gold, DOESNT SHOW THESE TO ANYONE, and translates them to the book of Mormon. Now at this point any rational individual would go "Hey, why didnt he show those to anyone?". No kind of spiritual supernatural discernment is needed here, this is just called 101 street smarts.
So if you fail the stooge-test and STILL believe that he had those golden plates which he never showed to anyone, well thats on you.

Mind you this is just the beginning of the stupidity of the mormon religion, BIble clearly teaches one God, they have millions of gods, and you can become one. It just contradicts the Bible on the milk basic truth level at every turn.
I come from the mean streets, and I had enough street smarts to notice the mormons were a cult even before I found out what the truth was, even as an atheist I knew OK these guys are fakes.
One thing you got to look out for is that FAKE FRIENDLINESS that mormons (and JWs) come with. It is so disgusting, yet many people have fallen for it.

Let me clarify for you: God will judge us on how FAITHFUl we were in doing works, in other words, whether we did them to be obedient OR whether we did them to earn our way into heaven.

Those who cannot physically do good works will not be judged on that basis. Those who cannot comprehend anything past their mental capacities.

So if you send money to charity, mow a lawn, shovel a yard, feed the hungry.. These are just examples but they will NOT keep your salvation for you. Your FAITH, BELIEF and God's GRACE are what save us. NOT doing good works..

Where's the scripture for this?
I don't know of any...

Where's the scripture for this?
I don't know of any...

I never said we are saved by works.
Apparently I'm saying something that is not understood. I'm sorry I can't say it any better.

As I asked another poster, could you please post some scripture that clearly states that we are not required to do any works AFTER being saved?

I see you are agreeing with studyman . well, lets' see. he thinks that the Pharisees were devil worshipers who had thrown out the Torah, and used their own law. he also does not recognize Jesus as being fully human and fully Devine.

do you agree or disagree with these 2 things.

You’re not a Christian are you. It’s not a question.

No man keeps their salvation, your teaching is in error.

Neither of the texts teach a loss of personal salvation. In Peter falling from steadfastness is falling from steadfastness, not from being saved. You're reading things into the texts that are not there.

just read the whole letter to Titus. Paul , in my opinion , lays out grace and works and salvation in a great way.

I know it was in poor taste, I apologize.
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I explained this to you before also. No fake branch is on the true vine. Do you think those who deny Jesus are going to be IN HIM? No. only those IN HIM are good branches and they are the ones referred to in John 15:2. If they do not produce fruit, they will be cut off. Same as in this scripture:
Romans 11:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

The good (those that believe and are saved), will receive goodness from God, only if we continue in his goodness, otherwise we also will be cut off. You got to get a clue sooner or later.