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1. Not by works( NOT “VOID OF WORKS”) but by grace thru FAITH.(eph 2:8-9)
2. Justified by works and NOT BY FAITH ALONE.(james 2:24)
3. Faith that Worketh in Love.(gal 5:6)
4. Faith and Action Working TOGETHER.(james 2:22)

Salvation is by GRACE through FAITH and NOT BY WORKS(of ourselves).(#1)


It is NOT BY FAITH ALONE(#2)but it WORKS in LOVE(#3)thus FAITH & LOVE(works of obedience(romans 1:5) manifested in ACTION and in TRUTH)(1john 3:16-18)are working TOGETHER.(#4)


2 John 1:6 AND THIS IS LOVE: THAT WE WALK IN OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you WALK IN LOVE.




THE FIRST PHASE OF SALVATION IS TO BELIEVE IN THE ONE THAT GOD HAS SENT AND IN HIS WORD OF TRUTH, THE GOSPEL OF OUR SALVATION.

(john 6:28-29, eph 1:13,romans 10:8-17).

THROUGH THIS FAITH WE WILL RECEIVE THE PROMISED HOLY SPIRIT(the Helper/Counsellor)(gal 3:14, john 14:16-17)


John 6:28-29 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the WORKS GOD REQUIRES?” Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to BELIEVE in the one he has sent.”


THE SECOND PHASE IS THE WORKING OUT OF THAT SALVATION AND REMAINING/CONTINUING IN THE FAITH TO THE END THROUGH OBEDIENCE TO GOD’S WILL AND COMMANDMENTS, DOING GOOD WORKS. WALKING AS JESUS DID AND BEING A PART OF THE BODY OF CHRIST WHO DOES THE WORKS BEING LED BY THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHO IS THE HEAD.


Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, HIS BODY OF WHICH HE IS THE SAVIOR.


1 Corinthians 12:28 And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues.


1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.


John 14:12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has FAITH in me WILL DO WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father


1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, iF YOU HOLD FIRMLY TO THE WORD I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.


Romans 1:5 Through him and for his name’s sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the OBEDIENCE that comes from FAITH.


Philippians 2:12 Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always OBEYED—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—CONTINUE TO WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING.


Romans 6:16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as servants, you are servants to the one whom you obey—WHETHER YOU ARE SERVANTS TO SIN, WHICH LEADS TO DEATH, OR TO OBEDIENCE, WHICH LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS?


2 Corinthians 9:13 Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, men will praise God for the OBEDIENCE THAT ACCOMPANIES YOUR CONFESSION OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else.


Ephesians 4:11-13 It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, TO PREPARE GOD’S PEOPLE FOR WORKS OF SERVICE, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, ATTAINING to the whole measure of the FULLNESS of Christ.


Romans 2:7 To those who by persistence in DOING GOOD seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.


Galatians 6:9 Let us not become weary in DOING GOOD, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.


Ephesians 2:10 For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus TO DO GOOD WORKS, which God prepared in advance for us to do.


1 Timothy 6:18-19 Command them TO DO GOOD, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life.


Hebrews 5:8-9 Although he was a son, he learned OBEDIENCE from what he suffered and, once made PERFECT, he became the SOURCE OF ETERNAL SALVATION for all who OBEY HIM.


Matthew 19:16-17 Now a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do TO GET ETERNAL LIFE?” “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, OBEY THE COMMANDMENTS.”


Matthew 25:21 “His master replied, ‘Well done, good and faithful SERVANT You have been faithful with a few things; I will put you in charge of many things. COME AND SHARE YOUR MASTER’S HAPPINESS!’


WE ARE SANCTIFIED BY THESE TRUTHS AS IT IS WRITTEN:

John 17:17 Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth.


James 1:22 BUT BE YE DOERS OF THE WORD AND NOT HEARERS ONLY deceiving your own selves.


Romans 2:13 (For it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.


1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God: that WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS; and His commandments are not grievous.


1 John 3:18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue, but in deed and in truth.


Ephesians 3:19 and to know this LOVE that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all THE FULLNESS OF GOD.


THE THIRD PHASE OF SALVATION IS SALVATION FROM GOD’S WRATH. THIS IS DEPENDING ON GOD’S MERCY AND JUDGMENT(JUSTICE).


Romans 9:15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”


1 John 4:17 In this way, love is made complete among us so that we will have confidence on the day of judgment, because IN THIS WORLD WE ARE LIKE HIM.


Matthew 12:36-37 But I tell you that MEN WILL HAVE TO GIVE ACCOUNT ON THE DAY OF JUDGMENT for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”


John 16:8 When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father,(ref:john 14:12) where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment,(ref:hebrews 10:26-27) because the prince of this world now stands condemned.


Romans 2:5-10 But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God “will give to each person according to what he has done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.


Romans 14:10 You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? FOR WE WILL ALL STAND BEFORE GOD’S JUDGMENT SEAT.


2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.


Hebrews 9:27-28 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, NOT TO BEAR SIN, BUT TO BRING SALVATION to those who are waiting for him.


1 Peter 4:17-18 For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for THOSE WHO DO NOT OBEY the gospel of God? And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the SINNERS.


John 7:17-18 If anyone chooses to do God’s will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who WORKS for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.


John 3:34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.


John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

You do then believe we are eternally secure in Christ or no?........, because on the Not by Works thread you seem to deny this if I remember correctly?

If that's true, then a "true Christian" has no need to persevere. No need to run the race if he already has the prize before the race is finished.
We have instant potatoes, instant coffee, instant soup but we don't have "instant justification". Perseverance and justification is a life long process. We can have a moral assurance of our salvation, but we don't have infallible assurance. We are guaranteed 100% infallible assurance after we are dead and with God, not before.

We do have instant justification here and in this life. One can't even start the race without it.

Glorification will occur when we die.

James "good works" and Paul's "works of the law" are different words with different meanings.
"Good works" is under a system of grace.
"Works of the law" is under a system of debt.
Treating "works"" interchangeably with no qualifier is a common error.
Authentic good works done in response to the grace of Christ is a good work. Faith and good works is like 2 wings of a bird.

The above post should explain why the charge of "works salvation" is so stupid.

I do not see it.
Salvation is a free gift...no works involved.

That is a wonderful picture. Thanks for sharing it with us

That said, "good works" are just one of God's purposes in making us, "His workmanship/masterpiece", and wholly new creatures in Christ .. Ephesians 2:10; 2 Corinthians 5:17. Good works "accompany" our salvation and are therefore part of the evidence that justifies our "claim" (to ourselves and others) that we are who we say we are (that we are the "Christians" that we claim to be).

So, "good works" are the "result", NOT the "cause" of our salvation, nor of its life-long maintenance. Rather, we are both saved and preserved ~from first to last/through this life from justification to Glory~ by God's grace through faith .. Philippians 1:6, 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24; Hebrews 7:25. We are called to "work OUT" a salvation that we already possess (not work at, work up, or work for our salvation). And we are called to work with/alongside of* God as He graciously continues the mighty work He began and promised to finish in us (by seeing to it that we continually grow up, more and more, into the likeness of His Son).

*(we are not called to simply "cooperate" with His dictates to us as if we, apart from Him and His preserving/sanctifying grace, could do any of this on our own).

Finally, if we do not persevere in the faith to Glory, we were never saved from the get-go .. e.g. John 6:37-40, 10:26-28; 1 John 2:19 cf Matthew 7:22-23, 13:24-30, 36-43.

~Deut

.........Romans 4
.........5 To the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness.

.........Romans 11
.........6 If it is by grace, it is no longer by works, otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
.........

Acts 13:48 is not teaching that God ordered those He chose to believe. God ordered that those who believed received eternal life. The appointing to eternal life was a result of believing not the cause of believing.


Gods foreknowledge is not the cause of belief or unbelief. God does in fact know but God does not cause one to believe and another to reject.

Neither of the twins in Rom 9 were exactly of great personal character. Jacob was a deceiver and tricked his father to bless him ahead of Esau. Esau only wanted the blessing for the wealth and not to serve God. My point would be that even though God knew what each would do God did not order them to do what they did.

Man has a hard time with God hating sin while having unwaivering love for the sinner. Even we who receive Christ and are saved hated God before we saw that our sin would condemn us to eternity in the lake of fire.

Nobody get saved until they get good and lost.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Some good thoughts, epostle -- not quite sure what you are trying to say, though. I believe we can have 100% assurance of salvation right now (that is, if we die we know we are saved and will go to heaven). I think you mean by that we do not have "infallible assurance" that our race is not over till death - that is - it is when we die that our destiny is determined based upon our faith in God. I am believing in Jesus Christ today, but I also am very fully aware that in me is the moral capability to choose my own way and reject Christ. I have absolutely no plans or desire to do that, but that does not take away the moral capability that God created me with.

Great picture! Doing good works are one of the riches blessings of the Christian life. We were "created in Christ Jesus unto good works" (Eph. 2:10). Sadly, on this site I have sometimes seen those in the quest to separate works from salvation lose the blessing and joy of service for the King!

LW97, do you have the moral capability within yourself to turn away from God and go your own way?

Yes I understand your frustration with the God of the Bible, He doesn't meet your fallen sinful and wicked expectations. I wish there was something I could do to make you feel beter, but I'm afraid nobody can change God. he is the same yesterday, today and forever more.

Unlike you Arminians we never question or judge the things that God does, He has the right to do as He pleases with His puppets. Maybe He doesn't want heaven to be overcrowded with puppets, I wouldn't blame Him. I don't like crowds and traffic either, s o it wouldn't surprise me if that was one of the motivating factors.

In any case we believe you committed a grievous sin by judging God, He will punish everyone who questions Him. We must remember that we are filthy, wicked vile sinners and He is Holy and pure so how dare such a low form of life question the Highest God.

Gods elect will rejoice with Him when He casts all those who don't know Him into the lake of fire, we look forward to the day that justice is served.

The doctrine of predestination and election are vital components of the Gospel, if we get these wrong then the whole Gospel is corrupted and a corrupt Gospel will not save a person.

These doctrines assert that God is sovereign over all things, we don't believe in the Arminius god who's power and sovereignty is limited down to a size that fits our fallen understanding.

I have a hundred verses to support Calvinism and you guys have a few weak verses which are taken out of context.

How presumptuous of you. You judge others and by the same measure you will be judged.

God does not delight in the death of the wicked. There will be no rejoicing at the great white throne judgment.

Your youthful zeal is running way out of bounds. Get to know God on a personal basis. Take the mind of Christ. What greater love for sinners which we all were before God called us into His great salvation. God called the Jew first then us even more unworthy Gentiles.

God loved us when we did not love God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

That must be why Christ and the apostles stressed the love of God.

Please cease from the condescending accusations. You are young and only parroting what you have been taught. That is the shortest path to being seen as foolish.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

John 3:16 was spoken to believers and sure enough whosoever believes in Him from the entire world is saved. This is true, we see that God's elect come from all over the entire world. Next please!!!

Not quite. Jesus spoke those words to the Jews who flatly rejected Him.

Jesus did not come to the Gentiles.

There is much lacking in your discipleship.

For the cause ofChrist
Roger

Posts here about works is....well...... just funny;

If a true Christian does not do G-d's work......pray tell...who will be doing it?