Can no longer separate sex from sin

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So you're saying women have all the power? Because men think with the little head, instead of the big one? If that's what you mean, then I agree. But I disagree that men are enslaved to lust because of it. I simply think God made it this way, so men would have motivation to make babies, or the world just hide in their cave, drink beer, build cabinets to store more tools in, and fantasize about a world in which men get to choose their mate.
I never said women have all the power, and I never said men are stupid. I'm saying I get angry for men when I hear things like, "Men give love to get sex, and women give sex to get love." ... So men are incapable of love? That's TOTALLY not comparing them to robots or anything (said with sarcastic voice). They deserve better than this drivel.
 

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I never said women have all the power, and I never said men are stupid. I'm saying I get angry for men when I hear things like, "Men give love to get sex, and women give sex to get love." ... So men are incapable of love? That's TOTALLY not comparing them to robots or anything (said with sarcastic voice). They deserve better than this drivel.
Love is something you do, so most men still stick around and support a family, so there's that.
 

Jewel5712

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Why is God not your friend?

"I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you." John 15:15
Because he's God, and I'm not. I define whether or not someone is a friend by how close I am to them. And months of trying to get close to God just went nowhere.[/QUOTE]

Sad....
 
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Because he's God, and I'm not. I define whether or not someone is a friend by how close I am to them. And months of trying to get close to God just went nowhere.
Sad....[/QUOTE]

Not all of us are blessed with a close relationship to God.
 
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Not all of us are blessed with a close relationship to God.[/QUOTE]
I understand that God loves so much, that humans can't even love a single drop of God's ocean sized love
but, God knows your heart and God can work with you from where you are, come to him as you are, you don't need to be anyone but yourself, no social pressure, no peer pressure, just you and God.
 

Jewel5712

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What if you don't have access to yellow paint?
Everyone who has access to God has access to yellow paint- which is innocent and joyful love. There are many types of love- the love between parent and child, the love of best friends, the love between siblings, and the love between a husband and wife. They all have different aspects, but they all have the same base. What would Christ be like as a brother? What would He be like as a son? A friend? A spouse? The anwaer: He'd be loving in accordance to the asspects of each relationship. But let's focus on spouse.

Song of Solomon tells us what kind of husband He'd be. And spiritually speaking, He is that kind of husband to His Bride- the church. He loved her enough to die for her. He shares His most intimate spiritual things with her. He trusts her with the handling of His Word. There is never anything lustful, perverted, or self-seeking with Him toward His Bride. You can't find better yellow paint than His influence.

When you go into a grocery store, you can choose what you will feed on during that week. You can choose healthy produce, or junk food. In the same way, you can choose the influences you feed yourself. You do not have to eat whatever crosses your path. "Ooh there's chewed gum on the ground, oh I passed a donut shop and the donuts look good in the window, oh there's a half eaten piece of pizza in that trash can, ooh look there's Subway."

When you see smut you can immediately turn your nose up at it like you would the pizza in the trash. Then go feed on the good things that you prepared in advance to feed on. There are some very romantic movies out there that are completely anti-smut. Like A Walk to Remember, Fireproof, or Love Comes Softly. Such influences can turn your paint yellow and give you the ability to love more deeply and intensely than lust could pleasure the brain. Because in a loving marriage both your heart and brain are pleasured much more intensely because it's without the guilt that comes with lust.[/QUOTE]

Usually lust comes first..then love..and the longer love grows it becomes deeper and more intimate..only natural...
 

Jewel5712

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Not all of us are blessed with a close relationship to God.[/QUOTE]

Just know its not on HIS part and good thing..YOU can always change the fact of not being close..God meets you where you are :)
 
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Everyone who has access to God has access to yellow paint- which is innocent and joyful love. There are many types of love- the love between parent and child, the love of best friends, the love between siblings, and the love between a husband and wife. They all have different aspects, but they all have the same base. What would Christ be like as a brother? What would He be like as a son? A friend? A spouse? The anwaer: He'd be loving in accordance to the asspects of each relationship. But let's focus on spouse.

Song of Solomon tells us what kind of husband He'd be. And spiritually speaking, He is that kind of husband to His Bride- the church. He loved her enough to die for her. He shares His most intimate spiritual things with her. He trusts her with the handling of His Word. There is never anything lustful, perverted, or self-seeking with Him toward His Bride. You can't find better yellow paint than His influence.

When you go into a grocery store, you can choose what you will feed on during that week. You can choose healthy produce, or junk food. In the same way, you can choose the influences you feed yourself. You do not have to eat whatever crosses your path. "Ooh there's chewed gum on the ground, oh I passed a donut shop and the donuts look good in the window, oh there's a half eaten piece of pizza in that trash can, ooh look there's Subway."

When you see smut you can immediately turn your nose up at it like you would the pizza in the trash. Then go feed on the good things that you prepared in advance to feed on. There are some very romantic movies out there that are completely anti-smut. Like A Walk to Remember, Fireproof, or Love Comes Softly. Such influences can turn your paint yellow and give you the ability to love more deeply and intensely than lust could pleasure the brain. Because in a loving marriage both your heart and brain are pleasured much more intensely because it's without the guilt that comes with lust.
Usually lust comes first..then love..and the longer love grows it becomes deeper and more intimate..only natural...[/QUOTE]
do we lust after Jesus first before
um, what? how do we love God?
 
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theanointedsinner

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what is wrong with the quoting system here?
 

Jewel5712

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Usually lust comes first..then love..and the longer love grows it becomes deeper and more intimate..only natural...
do we lust after Jesus first before
um, what? how do we love God?[/QUOTE]

It talks in the Bible quite extensively bout love..loving God..loving your neighbor..children..wife ..each other etc..
 
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theanointedsinner

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do we lust after Jesus first before
um, what? how do we love God?
It talks in the Bible quite extensively bout love..loving God..loving your neighbor..children..wife ..each other etc..[/QUOTE]
so clearly, let's take the bible in context, not out of context, or else :censored: or worse
 
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what is wrong with the quoting system here?
It's not the system, it's the user. No one else is having that problem. You have to start your response after [ /QUOTE], not in the middle of the sentence you're quoting.
 
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I never said women have all the power, and I never said men are stupid. I'm saying I get angry for men when I hear things like, "Men give love to get sex, and women give sex to get love." ... So men are incapable of love? That's TOTALLY not comparing them to robots or anything (said with sarcastic voice). They deserve better than this drivel.
Like all things there is an element of truth. And like all things it can't be applied to everyone in a particular group.
So there is truth in that statement up to a point, but not for every person. Women desperate for love may very well have sex in order to get or feel loved. And men that choose to give in to their sexual desires may very well give, or pretend to give, love in order to get sex.
Women not desperate for love will not. And men that don't surrender to sexual desire won't take love for sex.

This is a problem with blanket statements, they never apply 100%. Yet people continue to make them.
 
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"Men give love to get sex, and women give sex to get love." ...

Haha I have to remember that one. ;)
 
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Not all of us are blessed with a close relationship to God.
Just know its not on HIS part and good thing..YOU can always change the fact of not being close..God meets you where you are :)[/QUOTE]

You don't know how hard I've tried for many months.
 
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Just know its not on HIS part and good thing..YOU can always change the fact of not being close..God meets you where you are :)
You don't know how hard I've tried for many months.[/QUOTE]
Noticing a theme in responses? Mostly it's all "you're not trying hard enough, it's your fault". They don't word it that directly rather its worded in a way that sounds less obvious. But that's the root message.
It's essentially the standard response for such questions. Not anything personal, just automated answers.
 
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theanointedsinner

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Just know its not on HIS part and good thing..YOU can always change the fact of not being close..God meets you where you are :)[/ QUOTE]

You don't know how hard I've tried for many months.
you can try writing on paper, what you want to say to God, and what you believe God will say back to you, and talk on paper, we can always start somewhere

me: HistoryPrincess have difficulties with relationships
God: I fully understand, I'm omniscient
me: so, any way to help her
God: pray for God to guide her, he knows best
me: ok
God: I see that you want to share this with HistoryPrincess
me: I do
 
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You don't know how hard I've tried for many months.
Noticing a theme in responses? Mostly it's all "you're not trying hard enough, it's your fault". They don't word it that directly rather its worded in a way that sounds less obvious. But that's the root message.
It's essentially the standard response for such questions. Not anything personal, just automated answers.[/QUOTE]

I know. I know how normal people think. I know how normal people think I think.
 
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you can try writing on paper, what you want to say to God, and what you believe God will say back to you, and talk on paper, we can always start somewhere

me: HistoryPrincess have difficulties with relationships
God: I fully understand, I'm omniscient
me: so, any way to help her
God: pray for God to guide her, he knows best
me: ok
God: I see that you want to share this with HistoryPrincess
me: I do
I tried that. Again, for MONTHS.
 
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People, I have tried literally everything I can think of to get closer to God for years. And it seems like every step forward is followed by two steps back. Just because I'm not close to God doesn't mean I'm not trying. You wouldn't say the same thing to someone who was sick and has been trying for years to get better. Oh, wait. You probably would.

God wants my faith? I want his.